LBS Brakes (Attn: Louie/Redshad)

I was just reading up on these new fangled things called LBS. I've got
it on the Blackbird and Redshad has it on his Goldwing. We've checked
this and had both bikes on centerstands using the front brake to clamp
down. The back wheel turns as free as anything. Well, from what I've
read, to adjust these you put the bike on the centerstand and turn the
front wheel while pushing down the brake pedal.

Can SOMEONE go check this for me?

"The center piston of all three calipers are operated by the foot
brake, while the two outer pistons of the front calipers are
controlled by the hand lever. The two outer pistons in the rear
caliper are controlled by the servo-mechanism-actuated secondary
master cylinder. Honda says this arrangement delivers a broad, yet
easily controlled range of braking force."

"On linked brake systems the rear brake, alone, can always lock up the
rear wheel but it CANNOT similarly lock up the front wheel. (Far more
braking energy is drected to the rear brake than is, at the same time,
directed to the front brake. The rear wheel will ALWAYS lock before
the front one does if you use just the rear brake.) The reason for the
linkage is obvious: bike stopping power is never less than 80% from
the front brakes and never more than 40% from the rear brake. If you
use only the rear brake you definitionally leave more than half your
stopping power on the table. So, linked brakes insure that a
substantial amount of your stopping power comes from the front brake
whether you use them or not."

According to both of these, it makes sense how the LBS works. It'll
only work if you hit the back brake, but only give you some of your
front brake in the process.

Interesting!

 

Very Interesting. That comes standard on our bikes. I wonder if the
Voyager has LBS?

Redshad

 

Yup, the new Goldwing stole several cool things from the
Blackbird....the balancer in the GL1800 motor was also straight off
the Blackbird line.

You can lay thanks to the CBR1100XX for your bike being so
smooth....if a "thank you" is too much, I can take a check
instead.

 

Redshad will mail a ck.

 

Thanks Ed! I knew you were the best bill collector in the biz! Redshad
might not be seen in public for several weeks...

 

(Brian Walker)


Redshad will mail a ck.

Ed Hart
Growing Old Is Mandatory
Growing Up Is Optional"Brian Walker"




Thanks Ed! I knew you were the best bill collector in the biz! Redshad
might not be seen in public for several weeks...





Well Redshad works even more that you do, he works 7 hours aweek.That
dont leave much time to wipe around on the Barge and, ride, something
has to give.

 

I was just reading up on these new fangled things called LBS.<<

This technology has actually been out a while. The old CBR1000 had it as far
back as 1993 if I'm not mistaken and the ST1100 had it at least as far back
as 1996 if not longer. I've owned three VFR's... a '93 a '99 and an '00. The
'99 & '00 both had LBS, the '93 did not.

In my experience, the difference in braking and handling during stops
between non-LBS and LBS bikes is dramatic. With LBS, the bikes just squat
and stop with very little dive. The front end on non-LBS bikes dive like
crazy.
__________________________
Mick McHam Houston, TX
'01 ST1100 ABS, STOC# 1134
'00 VFR800FI
http://www.hal-pc.org/~mmcham

 

That's my experience so far too. I like the braking feel of the LBS
far better than the regular non-linked brakes.

The two places I've noticed the difference is either in hard curves
where the curve gets stronger and I have to brake for some reason, and
when I get caught by a traffic light and have to brake quickly.
Instead of the back end of the bike getting squirmy or the front end
taking a hard dive, it just stops quickly. In the hard curves, I was
used to the front end diving and causing me to pitch out. Now it's a
smooth reduction in speed without the pitching out.

 

Am I actually reading this correctly... you're not understanding how
linked brakes work?

I continue to be amazed.