late model high milage ex govt bikes

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by thewurstmeister, Mar 29, 2006.

  1. Hi all.

    The question of wether or not to buy an ex-police vehicle comes up
    pretty frquently on aus.cars, but I've yet to see it crop up in here...

    Apparently late model ex-government bikes with high milage sometimes
    come up for auction, and go fairly cheaply.

    What I want to know is:

    - Would it be worth buying an ex-police bike? Are they likely to be
    thrashed, or looked after despite their milage? Any other pros/cons?


    -Anyone know where to get one? How much they do actually sell for,
    etc?


    -TIA.
     
    thewurstmeister, Mar 29, 2006
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    G-S Guest

    It has... but not for a while.
    Cheaper than private sale ones normally (at least last time I checked
    which was a while back).
    The fairly small number of people I've spoken too who've bought
    ex-police bikes have been mostly happy with thier purchases.

    There are a few things to consider. Later model Beemer twins are prone
    to gearbox and or final drive problems when they get a few kms up. Very
    expensive to fix. The Honda ST1100's don't seem to suffer from this.

    The police bikes will have a solo seat and be painted white and may or
    may not come with panniers, but if they do then they are often those
    little 'city' panniers as BMW called them, rather than the full size
    touring panniers.

    Your budget should include repainting the bike (so it isn't white), a
    dual seat conversion and possibly panniers.

    The dual seat conversion can also be expensive as you often need to
    change the rear ductail from the squarish one on the police bikes have
    to the normal road bike version.

    Often by the time you allow for all of these alterations one finds out
    that the 'cheaper' price isn't after all so cheap.

    People sometimes don't do all (or even any) of these mods, but then the
    bikes don't look like a 'civilian' model and when you sell it you'll get
    less $. Either way that's a cost.

    I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, just be aware of the costs if you
    choose to do so.
    Government vehicle auctions. Google for it :)


    G-S
     
    G-S, Mar 29, 2006
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    JL Guest

    I would have thought having your visibility to the cagers increased by a
    factor of a 100 would be well worth any decrease in resale (and you save
    the cost of respray)

    JL
     
    JL, Mar 29, 2006
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  4. In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:40:53 +1000
    The problem with a police type bike is that everyone slows down in
    your vicinity.

    On the other hand, your chances of a SMIDSY are much lower.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Mar 29, 2006
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  5. thewurstmeister

    ck Guest

    solo seat cop cars?

    ahh well, at least they can't stick you in the back and beat you up
     
    ck, Mar 29, 2006
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  6. thewurstmeister

    Mad-Biker Guest

    Your buying a late model bike thats been serviced and maintained with books

    try to find one with flag holders, they been used for ceremonial duties, not
    thrashed every day.

    like all work vehicles they do have a hard life.

    You might find, that fleet services take the solo seats off and other items
    and put them on the new one in service, atleast thats what they do with the
    cars, im pretty sure its a sop to have new tyres on them too and generally
    be unregistered.



    MAD
     
    Mad-Biker, Mar 29, 2006
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  7. thewurstmeister

    G-S Guest

    Yeah... but white cars are bad enough... a white bike just looks wrong :)


    G-S
     
    G-S, Mar 29, 2006
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    J5 Guest

    maybe its been in the booth
     
    J5, Mar 29, 2006
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    sanbar Guest

    Couple of blokes around here bought them ex Fowles Auction Group
    (www.fowles.com.au) in Melbourne to do the Australia loop. They paid $9k
    for one, and $10k for the other. One bike fired up straight away, the
    other didn't. The fault in the non-starter was the electrics, because the
    police electrics were pretty much ripped straight out, and some vital
    wires came out in the cull. Getting the bikes on the road was another
    couple of grand, including rego. The cop bikes come up pretty
    infrequently, and usually in small bulk lots.
    HTH
    - sanbar
     
    sanbar, Mar 29, 2006
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  10. thewurstmeister

    Mad-Biker Guest

    well with the cars, all the police items they put in, they take out and put
    on the next one, the cage, batton holders, radios, long range fuel tank,
    bull bars etc, they all pull em out and put the old stuff or new stuff of
    the replacement back on.

    perhaps gs should buy one too and put a chair on it
     
    Mad-Biker, Mar 29, 2006
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  11. thewurstmeister

    GB Guest

    They take the batton holders out? Shit! What good is a car
    without batton holders?

    GB
     
    GB, Mar 29, 2006
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    justAL Guest

    Where do I hang my longnecks now?!?!

    justAL


     
    justAL, Mar 30, 2006
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    MJT Guest

    Which models are like this? A mate bought an ex-cop bike recently and it
    has a dual seat. However, I'll have to ask him if he bought it or if it
    came with it.
     
    MJT, Mar 31, 2006
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  14. thewurstmeister

    Mad-Biker Guest

    you have to hold the battons instead now - long neck goes between your legs,
    they never gave us a place to put em


     
    Mad-Biker, Mar 31, 2006
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    Untermensch Guest

    In NSW the police bikes go to auction at the government austions at Enfield

    You get a choice or BMW R1150's or K1200's
    All Apart from 2 or 3 will go to auction with around 40,000km on them,
    serviced correctly and all faults looked at and fixed. They are usually
    only ever ridden by one officer for their lifespan. All the NSW bikes come
    with touring panniers. Some of the more recent ones even have headlight
    switches.

    The only real problem with ex police bikes is that they will generally need
    a new clutch at 50,000 or slightly less due to all the slow riding that
    these bikes do. Thre may be some scratchs on the panniers etc and the tyres
    will be roadworthy.

    They sell for anything between $7500 for a real shitter to 10,000 for one
    that is in very good condition.
     
    Untermensch, Apr 1, 2006
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    G-S Guest

    The Victorian K100RT and K1100RT are like this. Not sure about others.


    G-S
     
    G-S, Apr 2, 2006
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