Way ahead of you squire, on that one. -- Alex BMW R1150GS DIAABTCOD#3 MSWF#4 UKRMFBC#6 Ibw#35 BOB#8 http://www.team-ukrm.co.uk Windy's "little soldier"
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Alex Ferrier Ooh quick, look everybody! Alex is ahead of someone. -- Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41 ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner", Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Sunday? How far have you got with the mechanical bits? Nope, still thinking about that one. But it's not a problem anyway, I can source summat from Maplins easily enough if I can't find the *exact* thing I'm still looking for. -- Alex BMW R1150GS DIAABTCOD#3 MSWF#4 UKRMFBC#6 Ibw#35 BOB#8 http://www.team-ukrm.co.uk Windy's "little soldier"
Sunday's OK. The mechanical bits are still on the bench, but I should get a chance on Saturday to offer them up.
sweller composed the following;: Yeah, we used to do that, slave monitor signal out to the pits. It's unlikely that single team times, as champ suggests he'd like, could be gathered from that. As they're working with a transponder system it depends then upon what equipment they use for collation and distribution then. Many clubs just use one laptop to a printer, with no need for wifi, or indeed any at all, networking. It's gotta be worth asking them, phone, letter or email, well before the event to see what can be done. PING CHAMP, This is not much use on the day, and I don't want to try to teach you to suck eggs or suggest stuff you might already be doing, but do you need 'immediate' laptimes or are they something that you want as a record to analyse later to see where you were good or otherwise? In my experience if you ask the organisers early enough, and comply with requests for pre-formatted disks/cd's etc they can dump you out a full set of laptimes, yours and/or everybody else's, at the end of the race. We do it routinely for the magazines and any interested parties every meeting. A downside, obviously, is that this invariably means hanging around while they get their act together, but it can be well worth it. Our next National meeting is at Kidderminster on the weekend of April 30th/May1st If you want, or anyone [1] else for that matter, to pop along and see how we time the cars and disseminate the information then you'd be very welcome. I dunno if it'd help much in terms of equipment and selection, but it might spark an idea or two for someone. Dates of the whole championship if anyone's interested are here http://www.onetenthoffroad.co.uk/ [1] A whole shit-load of people might not get as much attention from me as one or two people, I am an official, and it is a round of our National Series, so I do have certain duties to perform,. But I can and will take time out to show someone round and explain what we do. My email reply addy is mine and is used solely for usenet, just neverchecked unless someone posts a reply to tell me I have mail.
I've just phoned HS Sports (who provide KRC with their timing equipment) but their 'main-man' is out of the office until Monday. I'll phone then and find out how we get hold of the timing data. I'd like to see if I can feed it into this software[1] I'm writing so we can project likely finishing positions during the race. That would be *very* handy - but it was a trivial matter to suck the relevant data out of the PDF posted here recently. I'd be up for that - if SWMBO hasn't arranged something else for me. Cheers [1] http://www.designacuity.com/krc/ (recently updated to allow selection of an entire class) Also, hover the cursor over Team UKRM's lap 124
It's real time we want, for the following reasons: - to put a board out for the rider (mitigated if we can get the onboard timer working) - for the team to assess if the rider has a problem/is tiring/is going too fast [1] - for the signaller to be aware if the rider is "late", and warn the crew. KRC have always just supplied printed lap times in the past, and when I enquired about an electronic copy they scractched their heads. However, this year, they've published a PDF of all the times for all the teams, and that clever Sorby chap has extracted them and produced and analysis tool to process them. Have you not seen http://www.designacuity.com/krc/ ? [1] it's not unheard of for endurance teams to put a "slow down" board out to a rider - if there's only a few hours to go, the team in front is five laps ahead, the next team is 3 laps behind, then maintaining position is more important than risking a crash by being on the edge.
sorby composed the following;: coo, pretty. Seriously that looks really good. Think I'll show a few people that, some of our International class racers might be interested in something like that for our sport. We've got European and World Championships coming up this year in Italy and France, so anything that can give them a little 'edge' is worth pursuing.
Champ composed the following;: I hadn't until a few moments ago. Yeah, consolidation can be 'a good thing'. Bearing this in mind, the software we use might be of _real_ interest, but a bit of background first. We race model cars, serious kit, maybe £1500 per car, let alone radio gear and other stuff in the pits. 120 drivers race four times on the day in heats of 10 drivers at a time and their best times are collated to give an A to whatever letter final. The races are only five minutes, but might be anywhere from 12 laps for a long circuit to 20 laps for a short circuit. The cars all wear transponders that trigger a loop that is then timed via a computerised system. The main computer sorts the timings and in real time analyses and displays all the relevant places and times of every car running. We run staggered starts, so potentially the car that's running last on track might actually be fastest and could be leading. The information is then sent out to any computers that also have wifi and a slave software. This slave software also has different screens for referees, commentators, general info etc. Commentator mode is probably good for you, it can give a predictive analysis whereby on lap two for instance the computer is already predicting where you're likely to finish in that round of heats, thus letting a driver know if he needs to speed up, or not, to win. Obviously it's also predicting where all other drivers are going to finish, as everyone can get the same information. http://www.bbksoftware.com/ (seems to be down at the mo though) Is the software we use and the guy who designs and writes it pits in my caravan, so there might be a chance of you or sorby or whoever talking to him and discussing what he can do with it, or if he'd give you bits of it, like the predictive algorithms for instance. There are a couple of downloads on there somewhere, the one I use in the pits and as head referee is bbkRCNetScreen.
Fantastic effort, I'm serious about getting something sorted for lap timing and nobody has suggested any good cheap product yet. 'Hog
More on timing equipment. John just ordered a complete nav/radar kit for the boat. In Europe this lot came to Euro20,000, from 'merica *exactly* the same kit was Euro6100 delivered.......unfuckingbelievable (1). This put me in mind to email this crew www.advantagemotorsports.com and find out what we could get for X hundred dollars. The UK stuff is a rip off IMHO. We shall see. (1) bit spiffy, high lum's TFT's above and below decks, bluetooth(!), 2.5Kw radar 'Hog
