The MCC submission is up on their site - it's been sent to the NTC too but isn't appearing on their website. As well as the MCC and AMC submissions downloadable, the MCC site has links to the changes and the Regulatory Impact Statement, and info about the process. You can get to it via the front page [URL]http://www.mccofnsw.org.au[/URL] or direct at [URL]http://www.mccofnsw.org.au/a/166.html[/URL] The MCC submission includes a chunk of nice numbers showing that increased congestion could cost the country millions :) Feel free to take facts from the site and submissions and use them in your own. Don't abuse the NTC, no one takes that kindly especially bureaucrats. But definitely make them think they've opened up a can of nasty worms with teeth. The nature of the bureaucratic animal is that it will do whatever's least work and least likely to make its life difficult - it doesn't want ministers asking questions or articles in the paper, or lots of articulate annoyed active organised citizens coming for it with intent. So even a 2 paragraph statement picking one of the many problems and stating why it is a problem in your own words and implying that you will continue to monitor and protest will add to the impression that they really want to bother some other lot. I didn't realise till it was pointed out, but look at the language they use. Bicycles are "bicycles" not "pushbikes" but motorcycles are "motorbikes". Riders have a "cult belief" that splitting isn't dangerous. They think riders are foolish whackos all worried about their toys... Zebee