Lane Splitting in Texas?

Discussion in 'Texas Bikers' started by Bill1100, Feb 26, 2005.

  1. Bill1100

    Bill1100 Guest

    I haven't seen this mentioned here, so I apologize if this is redundant.

    It appears there is a bill pending in the Texas legislature that will
    make lane splitting legal in this state. Amazing...

    http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlo/79R/billtext/HB01522I.HTM


    Bill1100 - Dallas,TX
    2000 BMW R1100RT
    2000 BMW R1100R
     
    Bill1100, Feb 26, 2005
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    This would be a GOOD thing. The hard part is
    going to be educating the driving public AND
    motorcyclists as to when it should and should not
    be done.
     
    Keith Schiffner, Feb 26, 2005
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  3. Bill1100

    Bownse Guest

    About time. Keep your fingers crossed that this passes and Texas joins
    the rest of the world in reducing the risk of riders become accordions
    while stopped in traffic.
     
    Bownse, Feb 26, 2005
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  4. Got filed wednesday. No one I know, knew the Rep was going to do that. It
    will be interesting to see if this bill will go anywhere or get any support
    from other members of the legislature. Guess we need to write letters and
    see what's going on.
     
    Elmer McKeegan, Feb 26, 2005
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  5. Bill1100

    Mick McHam Guest

    It appears there is a bill pending in the Texas legislature that will
    make lane splitting legal in this state. Amazing... <<


    LOL! Must be someone recently moved to our state who proposed this.
    Obviously doesn't know our driving culture very well. If you tried this in
    Houston, legal or not, you'd have so many doors opened on you it would look
    like a medieval gauntlet.
    ___________________________________
    Mick McHam Houston, Tx
    '99 ST1100ABS (4 Sale)
    '99 VFR800FI
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    Mick McHam, Feb 26, 2005
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  6. Bill1100

    Bill Walker Guest

    There have been a few of us who split lanes occasionally .. hmmm.. I'm told
    that a few have gotten tickets for it.. Actually.. there has been a little
    discussion about it on this newsgroup, in the past and people seem to have
    mixed emotions about it..

    Seems the law doesn't actually address this issue, except other than the
    "two vehicles sharing lanes".. In California, lane splitting is encouraged
    in order to lessen congestion with motorcycles contributing to it.. I've
    never been cited, mostly because the traffic was so impacted, a police
    vehicle would not be able to follow me..

    I'd certainly like to see this Bill go to committee and get a fair shot..
    Keep us posted Elmer..

    Your Friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Feb 26, 2005
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  7. Bill1100

    Bill Walker Guest

    The ones who open doors on motorcycles are very rare.. Although there are a
    few psychopaths who'd do such a thing, they are not the norm.. I've split
    lanes in California, where it is encouraged.. and also in Texas .. where it
    is not done very much.. Lane splitting should never be done where traffic is
    moving and is virtually standstill.. Under those conditions, rapid lane
    changing isn't much of a problem..

    Of course, the driver who'd swing a car door on a motorcycle is a danger
    under any circumstance and in the event of his hitting a biker with his
    door, should be charged with attempted murder .. I've experienced a car door
    being swung at me on two occasions, in all the years and miles that I've
    ridden motorcycles.. Both occasions, the driver was intoxicated .. No one in
    their right mind would even consider such a thing..

    That being said, you are absolutely correct.. The public should be educated
    by all means possible, to thoroughly discourage any such mindset.. No
    nonsense and no tolerance penalties should be imposed and publicized
    widely..

    Your Friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Feb 26, 2005
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  8. Bill1100

    Bill1100 Guest

    I wouldn't even think about doing this in Dallas on the LBJ Fwy in rush
    hour traffic - or any other time, for that matter. I'll stick with the
    High Velocity Lane - that's dangerous enough with people crossing the
    double white line into the HOV lane.

    Bill1100 - Dallas, TX
    2000 BMW R1100RT
    2000 BMW R1100R
     
    Bill1100, Feb 26, 2005
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  9. Bill1100

    BJayKana Guest

    -------billwaker below----
    ------The ones who open doors on motorcycles are very rare.. Although
    there are a few psychopaths who'd do such a thing, they are not the
    norm.. I've split lanes in California, where it is encouraged.. and also
    in Texas .. where it is not done very much.. Lane splitting should never
    be done where traffic is moving and is virtually standstill.. Under
    those conditions, rapid lane changing isn't much of a problem..Of course, the driver who'd swing a car door on a motorcycle is a danger
    under any circumstance and in the event of his hitting a biker with his
    door, should be charged with attempted murder ..I've experienced a car door being swung at me on two occasions, in all
    the years and miles that I've ridden motorcycles.. Both occasions, the
    driver was intoxicated .. No one in their right mind would even consider
    such a thing..
    ----bill walker----
    -----------------------------------------------------
    BJAy here---
    -----the drunk you mention above, probably got mixed up, and thought he
    was parked at Dairy Queen, and was merely getting out, to get em a
    burger.
    ------I guess, I'm just a lucky old fart, never had a cager try any
    nonsense on me. Maybe it's my friendly, happy smile, caused by riding.
    Could be my goodlooks, wearing my Motorcycle Uniform.....heehee...bjay
     
    BJayKana, Feb 26, 2005
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  10. Bill1100

    Bownse Guest

    The motor cops would be the first to pick up on the new law and start
    using it. The first redneck assault an officer with a deadly weapon (the
    vehicle) would make enough news that everyone would learn pretty quickly.
    --
    Mark Johnson, Ft. Worth, TX
    http://www.bikes-n-spikes.org
    "Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, or by
    legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can't help being stupid.
    But stupidity is the only universal capital crime, the sentence is
    death, there is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically
    and without pity." ~ Robert Heinlein
     
    Bownse, Feb 26, 2005
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  11. Bill1100

    Bownse Guest

    the bill addresses this. NO MORE that +5 over the speed of traffic and
    only if the traffic is moving at 20 mph or less.
     
    Bownse, Feb 26, 2005
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  12. Bill1100

    Bownse Guest

    I split in a heat beat any time traffic was stopped; wreck as the cause
    or not. That means I could do it (at least to jocky for position) daily.

    --
    Mark Johnson, Ft. Worth, TX
    http://www.bikes-n-spikes.org
    "I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandment's would have
    looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress." - Ronald
    Reagan
     
    Bownse, Feb 26, 2005
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  13. "texdays"
    SNIP
    And? The BDC goes to jail for felonious
    assault at the least...THEN you sue the bastard
    for everything he and his family owns and ever
    will own.
    I don't like cars...yes the wife has one. Yes,
    I still have a 32 y/o rat truck that MIGHT get
    1,500 miles a year and as little care as most
    casual riders do. It's used hauling big stuff that
    wont fit the motorcycle. People who open car doors
    on me tend to get hurt...the ones who change into
    my lane do to. Mostly it's emotionally hurt though
    there is one stupid bitch in the Killeen area whom
    I suspect had to buy new underwear.
    I DO NOT advocate everyone acting as I do.
    I've just become an intolerant son of a bitch when
    it comes to idiots in cages. I give them the same
    respect and mercy they show motorcyclists.
     
    Keith Schiffner, Feb 26, 2005
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  14. Bill1100

    Brian Walker Guest

    I've stayed out of this discussion because of my known thoughts of "lane
    splitting". I do it all the time anyway...mostly because I can. I've been
    known to ride through the traffic going as fast as 50mph or so. By the time
    I get to a car and they realize I'm there, I'm far past them. I'll
    occassionally hear a horn blow, but I'm long since gone by the time they
    react.

    That being said, if someone opens a door in traffic, they're at fault if
    someone hits them. The law is very clear and it's not as good of an idea as
    someone in a car might think. The law states that the only time a door can
    be opened is when it can be safely done. In traffic and where someone hits
    it, wouldn't be considered "safely". I've had people squeeze the lane, blow
    their horns and even scream at me. If someone ever DID open a door in
    traffic, they better be ready to lose it...then take a good ass whippin'
    while we're at it. Whether I'm splitting lanes or not, that doesn't give
    them the right to break a law and endanger someone.

    All that being said, people need to do more worrying about themselves and
    traffic would go alot smoother. I've noticed in my many years that people
    try too hard to drive their car and other people's cars too.
     
    Brian Walker, Feb 27, 2005
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  15. Bill1100

    Brian Walker Guest

    And giving that much time of someone next to a car with a motorcycle would
    be the making for getting someone hurt. If that's all the speed someone is
    going to ride, they might as well sit in the traffic. It would be more
    dangerous to get between the cars and ride within 5mph of the cars.
     
    Brian Walker, Feb 27, 2005
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  16. Bill1100

    Brian Walker Guest

    I take it there's not that many people in Houston who'd yank some dumbass
    out of their car and stomp their ass...after breaking a door off their car
    to get to the people.
     
    Brian Walker, Feb 27, 2005
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  17. I use to buy steel bearings and keep them in a sack on the handle bar. The
    ole trick of dropping a few to get tailgators off my back.

    But after a while it got to be that the idiots were getting fearless or just
    being more stupid than usual. Next thing I knew I was flinging those steeles
    into drivers side windows which were open and hitting a few people in the
    head. I decided I was just getting too angry and stopped carrying the
    steeles.

    Later tho I was outside a bar when a cop came up and started talking to me.
    Just general bs nothing serious. He asked how I kept tailgators back. For a
    second I debated but decided to tell him I kept marbles in a bag on the
    handlebars. He smiled and told me to go down to womacks and get the big golf
    ball size steel bearings. He said those will keep those assholes back. Well
    I thanked him and didn't bother with those things. I figured I would just
    wind up killing someone when I threw it at the driver.
     
    Elmer McKeegan, Feb 27, 2005
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  18. I don't see any problem killing them..... :^)
     
    Elmer McKeegan, Feb 27, 2005
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  19. "Elmer McKeegan"
    SNIP
    I figured the last part out without ever having to
    throw a single bearing or marble...that's why I've
    never done it.
     
    Keith Schiffner, Feb 27, 2005
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  20. Bill1100

    BJayKana Guest

    ----Elmer Gentry McKeegan-----
    ----wrote----
    ------I use to buy steel bearings and keep them in a sack on the handle
    bar. The ole trick of dropping a few to get tailgators off my back.But after a while it got to be that the idiots were getting fearless or
    just being more stupid than usual. Next thing I knew I was flinging
    those steeles into drivers side windows which were open and hitting a
    few people in the head. I decided I was just getting too angry and
    stopped carrying the steeles.Later tho I was outside a bar when a cop came up and started talking to
    me. Just general bs nothing serious. He asked howI kept tailgators back.For a second I debated but decided to tell him I kept marbles in a bag
    on the handlebars. He smiled and told me to go down to womacks and get
    the big golf ball size steel bearings. He said those will keep those
    assholes back. Well I thanked him and didn't bother with those things. I
    figured I would just wind up killing someone when I threw it at the
    driver.
    ----elmer Mckeegan------------------bjay below says-----
    wow, what-a-story--!!!
    Elmer, gosh, you must have been one of the socalled ''1%'ers'' eh, in
    your hayday, huh? You sound like you were a ''ruffian'', in your younger
    days, to me.--the other amazing part of your story/comments, is when the Cop,
    casually, starts up a conversation with you of all places, outside a
    bar, and brings up, of all subjects, ''how to keep tailgaters'' back.
    Then, amazingly, he suggest to you, a much better way to defend against
    tailgatters. He suggest the heavy, golf ball size ball bearings, to
    throw at those assholes. What-a-Cop------------------bjay------------------

    'Ya'll take care'' --BJAY--
     
    BJayKana, Feb 27, 2005
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