KZ1000 oil cooler photos?

Krusty's idea of using a junkyard fan to blow on the engine is the best I
think, but, why re-invent the wheel?? Buy a LC bike similar to the KZ and
use it for the bulk of your training.
hth
Hank

 

It's been suggested, but he points out (with some justification) that
there's no lc bike remotely similar.

Anyway, it's not a problem so don't lose sleeo ;-)

 

When I post information in the cautionary mode, I will usually type,
"Don't ask how I know that ;-)". It saves bandwidth that would be
wasted on anecdotes, and anecdotes rapidly attract other anecdotes,
and soon attract hypercritical posters who call the person who
publically admits his mistake a "fool".

Yes, Mr. Freeman, you *are* an "asshole". Your choice of insults
reflects what you despise in yourself, i.e., a hypercritical
personality.

I post so I can help newbies who have problems understanding what is
happening with their motorcycles. Sometimes this results in multiple
posts which seem to convey the same information, over and over and
over. But that's what has to be done to help newbies who are so
unfamiliar with motorcycle technology they don't know where to begin
searching. �

Oh, I get some pretty long threads going with newbies who are grateful
for my responses.

But I generally steer clear of the debates which follow the initial
posts.

There's no point in debating with the guy who always starts talking
about battery and charging system problems when the stated symptoms
indicate that the newbie's carburetor is just dirty. That's 90% of the
starting problems with modern motorcycles that have CV carbs.

He's been getting desperate for a running internet feud, hasn't he?
Sorry, but I have other things to do.

 

While it is simpler to buy something than to start from scratch and
build something *completely new*, I know for a fact the KZ-1000 will
run cooler if he just richens up the idle mixture, and the cooling fan
will work better than the oil cooler.

Dyno operators will use box fans to cool motorcycle engines between
power runs. He's not going to be using a lot of power, but he needs to
keep air flowing past the cooling fins.

OT: I remember the first time I ever heard the phrase, "Why re-invent
the wheel?" I was puzzled by what it meant...

Engineers at a certain fly-by-night company that supplied
telecommunications equipment to the Saudis were disinterested in
keeping up with inspection records, and everytime I would ask somebody
to actually show me that an engineering order had been complied with,
they would answer "Why re-invent the wheel?"

And I would answer that the company wasn't involved in cutting edge
research, they needed to keep howing the row until the crop was
harvested.

They finally had a crop failure when the Saudis didn't renew the
contract for more command, control, and communication equipment to
defend the kingdom.

 

Hoyt, with an H. God rest his carbonised soul. He was astonishingly good
on some things, and equally appalling on others. I remember with
fondness a long-running dispute over whether (of all things) a Honda 250
Rebel had vertically split crankcases, which I insisted it did.

It ran for days, as he trotted out more and more "experts" and
"evidence" to "prove" it was not so, and then he went and looked at
one....

I think Potage or whatever he's morphed into these days is filling the
gap quite nicely.

"I generally steer clear of the debates which follow the initial
posts." is a lovely way of saying: "When I get it hog-whimperingly
wrong, I try and pretend it didn't happen."

 

uninterested (a pedant writes)

 

Nope. I'll quite happily back you when you post something relevant and
accurate (which is often). But if you commit follies as well (and you
do, frequently), you can expect them to be flagged up too.

Like Mike says, if I make a mistake, I happily admit it. It's a very
good practice to adopt.

 

That's why you plug the passage from the "pressure switch" to the gallery. That forces all of the
oil through the cooler.

 

On my '81 1100, the right side fitting tapped into the gallery from the pump. This split to a
parallel gallery that ran to the filter cover mating surface. The stock cover had a recess that
allowed oil into the filter cavity. A non-recessed cover would block the gallery and force all oil
through the cooler. The cooler return emptied directly into the filter cavity.


Anyone with any experience with the GSX750 care to explain the chrome dome on the filter cover? It
looks like it might house a plunger to force oil through the non-existent cooler, but I don't know
that for a fact.

 

I don't understand how the oil returning from the oil cooler would get
back into the crankcase if the pressure switch passage is plugged.

Can you explain a bit more?

 

The pressure switch is a flap that senses the flow of oil into the gallery. You modify the housing
of the switch to take oil that has passed through the switch and routing it through the cooler
before returning it to the gallery.

 

You just made that up, didn't you?

 

I can assure you that anyone who has undertaken the restoration of an
emergency vehicle knows that one

Good site.. and thanks again.

They were never factory, but I have often heard of those in urban work, as
well as some trainers being setup with aftermarket coolers.

I know one that is encouraging me to lengthen the swingarm and turn it into
a hill climber

Another really articulate response. Thanks again for your help.

Mike


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Mike W.
96 XR400
99 KZ1000P
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)

 

I was once a long-standing frequent contributor to another usenet group,
where I had a fair number of run-ins. I definitely was comfortable in
taking on the role of mega-asshole for the right vacuum-headed loudmouthed
know-nothing pussy, and as such, have cultivated an appreciation for
style-within-controversy. Without wanting to step into or become part of
any feuds in here, or forming any conclusions about either side, I just
wanted to complement the author on this brilliant remark. We had a
tradition over there... allow me to carry that into here:

A+

Mike


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Mike W.
96 XR400
99 KZ1000P
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)

 

Nice to meet you. Hopefully you know about the KZ1000P group on Yahoo too.
Good guys and an active group.

Those are called bead-retention tires. They'll stay on the rim after a loss
in pressure. Pirellis... I've moved on to Metzlers myself.

I have had training from long-time KZP motor instructors who have talked
about 120. I believe mine is good to like 122 though I haven't been over 85
on it. The police models were slightly detuned in moving from the C model
to the P model. I have a little info on that on this page that I maintain
about KZP's:

http://users.crocker.com/~mwilliams/KZP.htm

Mike


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Mike W.
96 XR400
99 KZ1000P
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)

 

The KZP run flats were made by Pirelli actually. Instructors are quick to
point out that "run flat" is an inaccurate term and that the proper one is
bead retention.

In many jurisdictions, pursuit policy is that motors are a secondary
pursuit vehicle and must relinquish the lead position as soon as a
4-wheeler shows up. There was supposedly some epic pursuit last year(?) in
socal where a police motor was chasing a civilian bike. The pursuit got
dangerous and was ordered abandoned and all did except for one police motor
that followed the perp everyplace he went... sidewalks... over curbs...
where ever. I believe the chase ended with the perp getting away but all of
the police motors were accounted for as having disengaged and the highly
skilled pursuit officer was theorized to have been a movie stunt man. This
was supposedly aired on tv and lots saw it... I'd love to find a tape or
whatever of that chase someday.

Mike


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Mike W.
96 XR400
99 KZ1000P
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)

 

In my neck of the woods, it's predominantly Harleys, though there are some
BMW's showing up. The HD seems to be most suited to the urban mission, and
the BMW to the interstate mission. I think there's one department left in
New England with KZP's.

The ST1300 is starting to see some use in other parts of the country but
I've heard of several reports of them having a mysterious stability issue
at speed.

I haven't heard of any unmarked police bikes over here. One of the big
missions of traffic bikes is to be seen though. At least here.

Mike


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Mike W.
96 XR400
99 KZ1000P
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)

 

HEY CARL! Awful nice to hear from you again too! My email crew seems to
have grown tired of me too.... today actually. An insurrection lead by
Asswipe. And after all I've done for him. So you'll have to give me a shout
by voice sometime when my cell phone is fully charged so we can catch up
for real.

If only Levy could have seen things as you do during "my career"

COOL! Ride safe and have fun. I'll get out to the Wudi sometime. I'm
looking for a trials bike and another KZP at the moment, but am committed
to spending much much more time on my XR this year. It'll have to be a new
riding area, but that's my plan.

Please say hello to Deb for me... take care Jim!

Mike

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Mike W.
96 XR400
99 KZ1000P
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)

 

Thanks yet again. This one I was aware of but your explanation is the best
I've seen. I'm assuming you're a former KZ owner... no?

Mike


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Mike W.
96 XR400
99 KZ1000P
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)

 

Mike,
This place (Brock Creek) is trials bike heaven.
I even have a Dunlop trials tire mounted on the rear of my GasGas
EC300 for this ride.

Come down this way anytime.
Give me some warning and I'll take some time off and show you some of
my riding places (and my sling blade). <G>

Ride safe, Bro.


Wudsracer/Jim Cook
Smackover Racing
'06 Gas Gas DE300
'82 Husqvarna XC250
Team LAGNAF