Knives.

Carrying thereof: legality.

Were it the case that someone routinely carried something like:

http://www.walshbrothers.co.uk/Stock001/big/A/AK07206.jpg

Which RS engineering gave away free with orders for a while and was
actually pretty bloody useful for all manner of things day to day,
comprising as it does of a relatively servicable screwdriver, tweezers,
pen and parcel opening slitting knife.

Could they get into trouble for doing so?

Obviously I'd expect something of that nature to go into hold luggage on
any kind of flight, and frankly, for safety in the face of wot the
gubmint just voted in I'd be inclined to trim my nails and blunt them
before heading to the airport.
I was asked if I had a knife at the National Gallery in London before
entering, would you credit it, a butterfly exhibition; and said 'no' at
the bag search, later realising I was a liar.

 

Nah, you can buy them airside in Swiss airports.

I once forgot to stash my Swiss Army knife on a flight back from GVA.
The policeman on security duty carried it past the portal and X-ray machine
for me.

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I once forgot to stash my Swiss Army knife on a flight back from GVA.
The policeman on security duty carried it past the portal and X-ray machine
for me.[/QUOTE]

I got a beautiful lockknife confiscated by Eurostar security once.
Cunts.

D.

 

IST (vaguely) R that there's a maximum blade length, below which it's
not an 'offensive weapon', but ISTR that there are also laws about
flick-type knives, which probably don't apply in this case. No idea
what that blade length is, though.

 

Heh, once coming back from Cameroon, Cameroonian security completely
missed my leatherman tool in my PC case.

The French security caught it though (Air France flight y'see). The guy
asked what I was doing with it and I told him that I'd forgotten to put
it in my suitcase and that I was a techie. He replied, "Just don't tell
anyone" and stuffed it back into my computer case.

 

Generally, no, it would not be an offence to have such a knife.
However, if it was used to threaten someone, or, the threat of getting
your knife out, then it would be an offensive weapon.

Any knife of under 3" blade (iirc) can be carried if you have reasonable
excuse to carry it. In your pocket on a walk etc wouldnt be a problem,
but carrying it into a nightclub may not be wise, as there would be
little excuse to need a knife in such a place.
Alan.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, A.Lee

I do wonder about my Leatherman sometimes. It has a < 3" blade, but it
locks, and ISTR that locking blades are frowned upon.

 

No, it is 'flick' knives and other automatic knives that are outlawed,
normal penknife type knives are legal, even with a locking blade, so
long as they are below 3" long(the blade that is).
A qucik google brought up this page:
http://www.bkcg.co.uk/guide/law.html
Which says this:
"The Criminal Justice Act (1988) says that you may carry a knife with a
blade length of 3.0" or less so long as it is capable of folding."

So, as yours will fold back into its handle, it is legal.

[Oh, I do hope all of my knife and knives are correct.]
Alan.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, A.Lee

Cool.

I'll call you for the defence if I get banged up for 42 days.

 

And this is how you pay him back? By telling the whole fucking Internet.

You ****.

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Shirley the whole point of being banged up for 42 days is that there will be
no defence.

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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, AndrewR

D'oh!

Better take a few with me then.

 

Http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2006/en/ukpgaen_20060038_en.pdf



Bladed items etc:- 139 Offence of having article with blade or point in
public place


(1) Subject to subsections (4) and (5) below, any person who has an
article to which this section applies with him in a public place shall
be guilty of an offence.

(2) Subject to subsection (3) below, this section applies to any article
which has a blade or is sharply pointed except a folding pocketknife.

(3) This section applies to a folding pocketknife if the cutting edge of
its blade exceeds 3 inches.

<Bits snipped>

For a knife to be a folding pocket-knife within the meaning of this
section, it must be readily and immediately foldable at all times,
simply by the folding process. A lock-knife, which required a further
process, namely activating a trigger mechanism to fold the blade back
into the handle, was held not to be a folding pocket-knife (Harris v DPP
[1993] 1 All ER 562); followed in R v Deegan [1998] Crim LR 562,[1998] 2
Cr App Rep 121.



Carried an opinel no7 since I was a kid. Used them for everything and
replaced them when the blade had worn short.
Suddenly I'm a criminal.................

 

If they'd arrested David Kelly on his way into the woods, a minor
embarrassment for the Government might have been averted.

 

<G> 'salright, we spoke French.

 

I've got a Frost's Clipper, which I have taken to carrying with me on
my wild camping excursions into the local 'outback'

http://www.frosts.se/bilder/morakniv/860mg/860mg.gif

Those New Forest deer can be a bit intimidating you know.

 

My Leatherman PSTII also has a >3" blade and when I asked a Policeman
I spotted at the Customer Service desk in Toys-R-Us a while back if it
was legal to carry all the time he said it depended on what my
profession was. I *nearly* replied "mugger" but thought better of it.
;-)

Bottom line as I see it, as long as it conforms to the law, you have
good reason to be carrying it AND you don't use it aggressively then
it's ok?

The last time I had a knife confiscated was when I went to see Genesis
at Earls Court!

All the best ..

T i m

 

I frequently wander around pubs with a sword[1]. Not been nicked yet.

[1] Bonfire night a speciality.

 

That's not acceptable because the law is too vague. It's just one more
way that they can decide they want your DNA and arrest you - sure,
they can drop all of the charges later, but what good does that do?

I've been told by multiple police offices that my leatherman is legal,
and I've carried it everywhere for 10 years now. Looking up at Mark's
post, it would appear that every policeman I've spoken to about this
was wrong. Shows how much they know about the law huh?

 

Three inches is my recollection.

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