Knee jerk reaction?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by T i m, Apr 3, 2008.

  1. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Hi All,

    The missus had a new knee fitted just over a year ago and is now
    talking about getting her bike out again (XV750).

    I spotted something where a Doctor was recommending against it for
    someone (I guess the increased risk of damage should you land on it
    etc)?

    So, what does the panel think please, get the XV750 out and give it a
    go, get something lighter (I can't see her going for that) or buy her
    a trike or combo (I can't see her going for either of them either).

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Apr 3, 2008
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  2. T i m

    T i m Guest

    <quick Google> Ah, ok, so do you have any thoughts re what one would
    be 'good' please Krusty (seeing them from £11 to £270 so far and don't
    know anyone into MX these days). Links etc?

    Is it one of those things where she could get lucky and buy something
    off_the_shelf that would really work (when push comes to crunch) but
    would be better off having some made specifically for her?
    Understood, and money well spent (even at ~200 quid) if they really
    protected her for the worst (it took the full year to really get the
    knee to a point where she didn't have to compensate for it and I'd
    hate to think how much longer it would take (if it could be done at
    all) if we had to go there again). :-(

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Apr 3, 2008
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    Krusty Guest

    I'm a bit out of touch these days, but Asterisk Cells & CTi used to be
    highly rated. I'd consider 200 quid the absolute minimum.
    I think off-the-shelf would be fine, so long as they fit properly.


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    Krusty, Apr 3, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    Blige .. well, much as though she loves her bike and biking I'm not
    sure she would be ready for that sorta money (the £1300 I meant) but
    then again ....
    Ok, and the better sites seem to suggest some accurate measurements
    and may size options so that's a good sign.

    All the best and thanks again ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Apr 3, 2008
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    Eddie Guest

    < snip >

    Rather than taking the recommendation of "a" non-specific doctor about
    "someone", why doesn't she ask *her* doctor for a recommendation
    regarding *her*?
     
    Eddie, Apr 3, 2008
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  6. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Good point, and we could / may well do, but it was only because I read
    about 'someone' being advised (against) riding again with said knee
    replacement I thought I'd first ask here to see if such advice is
    'common' or if anyone has been any generic advice about said and
    motorcycling (and hence why I asked here)?

    The only formal / medical advice she has been given so far (by 'a'
    physiotherapist) was general as in "take it easy, be sensible" and
    more specific re "avoid swimming, especially breaststroke"?

    Her Consultant Surgeon (who actually fitted the new parts) couldn't
    understand the last one, basically telling her to "get on and enjoy
    it". ;-)

    I assume her new knee, although strong in itself might be more
    vulnerable in general (in the case of a fall / accident etc) and the
    chances of repairing it should it get broken would probably be worse
    than if the work hadn't been done in the first place (as with her
    other knee).

    Logically, putting herself / knee at any more risk than normal (by say
    motorcycling) would normally be a no-no but then is that an acceptable
    'cost'.

    She wouldn't attempt to ride a motorcycle if:

    1) She was told specifically not to by someone who really knows (ie,
    maybe not 'a' or even her GP for example).

    2) *She* didn't feel she could manage it safely / easily.

    3) She couldn't do so comfortably (or with any more discomfort than
    she is normally in with her other knee or her back).

    If we could make 2) more realistic by (say) finding a lighter bike or
    her wearing some extra specific protection then that may also be
    acceptable (to us).

    This particular woman isn't happier than when riding all day on her
    XV750 (she has ridden my R100RT even with me pillion but prefers the
    cruiser riding position and general lightness / simplicity of the
    controls on the Yam) and was clay shooting with her tennis elbow op
    stitches still in .. and I'm not going to tell you what she had me do
    with her just after the op on her spine (only to say staring at the
    stitches didn't put me off too much) :-(

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Apr 3, 2008
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    DanB Guest

    I had mine replaced, ooo, 11 years ago now. I was only 13 at the time, I
    learned to ride and 16 as you do, and then at 18 got my full licence. I
    don't wear any strange knee braces or anything. Indeed, I fell off at low
    speed in the ice and landed on it. It didn't break. Titanium is stronger
    than bone - it's not the joint you need to protect, it's where the joint
    goes inside the bone (in my case, half way down my shin and a bit up my
    femur) as they can smash out - shattering the bone.
     
    DanB, Apr 3, 2008
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  8. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Crikey, that's young Dan (for a new knee not licence) ;-)
    Understood, but that's part of the risk when you are 57 and not 18,
    yer bones don't bend like they used to! :-(

    IF wearing some sort of extra protection would really offer some real
    protection and IF we could justify the cost / risk (as opposed to her
    just not biking any more) and IF she could / would wear them (you know
    women and vanity) then we might still be in the game.

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Apr 3, 2008
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  9. T i m

    DanB Guest


    Oh yea no doubt the more protection the better - but being 18, I was
    invincible ;-) All this talk has made me think I should get an MOT on the
    Hornet seen as it's done a grand total of 40 miles since the last one, 14
    months ago.
     
    DanB, Apr 3, 2008
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    Lady Nina Guest

    I don't. Please feel free to explain.
     
    Lady Nina, Apr 3, 2008
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    DozynSleepy Guest

    You don't waaaant to do thaaaat !

    I'm sure we could knock something up with 3/4" boiler plate and some
    heavy wall steel tube !
     
    DozynSleepy, Apr 3, 2008
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  12. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Ok, well, *some* women won't for example go out on their bike without
    putting on their makeup ... or talk about abandoning our biking
    holiday because their face had been attacked by midges ..?

    And then there is the "can we go out today as I'm having my hair done
    tomorrow ... " [1] ?

    <shrug>

    HTH ;-)

    All the best ..

    T i m

    [1] Maybe this will be less of an issue now she has a more helmet
    friendly hairstyle?
     
    T i m, Apr 3, 2008
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    Lady Nina Guest

    Thank you.
    <boggle>

    Hmmm, an allergic reaction and swelling that wasn't contained by
    anti-histimines maybe - based on looks - no.
    What is this having your hair done of which you speak?
     
    Lady Nina, Apr 3, 2008
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  14. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Indeed, but maybe you are still fresh faced and beautiful so don't
    need to make the best of what you have got? It puzzles me also ..
    she's married to me so isn't (supposed_to_be) on the pull and I've
    seen her undressed so the make-up bit is fairly trivial between us.
    But she is of an age where 'making_an_effort' still counts (in her
    world at least)?
    Something like that. Much to her frustration she often 'reacts' to
    even the most innocuous of substances so the treatments for things can
    have as bad an effect on her as the problem itself (as per the
    midges). She is even reluctant to come canoeing because of how she
    feels if people see her getting into the canoe with her arthritis and
    post opp missing cartilage, tennis elbow, carple tunnel, spine opp
    'difficulties'. I couldn't give an F about what anyone thinks I look
    like or what they think she looks like but it bothers her
    (apparently).
    Pass, not had any past grade3 since I split up with the first missus
    18 years ago. Our hairdresser at the time responded to my Special Brew
    induced bravery comment re my comb-over and when I said 'do what you
    like with it' she shaved it all off.

    Never looked back .. "Take two bottles into the shower", not me, just
    a flannel and some Gunk .. ;-)

    All the best ..

    T i m

    p.s. She also tries to apply some of this bizarre logic to me when
    (if) we go out ... "You can't go to a wedding in those greasy jeans
    ...." (wtf)?
     
    T i m, Apr 3, 2008
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    Lady Nina Guest

    GYASB. No, I'm old and haggard. I scrub up OK though.
    See this is the thing - why is using make up 'making the best of'?
    making an effort != make up.

    I'll do the wavy hand 'it's a cultural thing' here. I could bang on
    about it but it isn't really a UKRM subject.
    Then loading up her body with the toxins in the make up will not help.
    This bit makes the make up bit make more sense - it is something about
    her body she still has control of, 'putting on a face' can be armour.
    That's a shame. Here she can have some of my self confidence, I've got
    a bit to spare :)
    Best way.
    Speaking of showers I'd better go jump in one before the taxi gets
    here.
    Ah now this I agree with her on.
     
    Lady Nina, Apr 3, 2008
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  16. Admit it, you use a jetwash, don't you?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 3, 2008
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  17. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Might have ... what of it?

    I may have even used a "Shine-o Ball-o" ;-)

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Apr 3, 2008
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    So far I've only found one place that sells them, and they have supply
    problems.
     
    Pip Luscher, Apr 3, 2008
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  19. The Doctor uses these for skiing (she took out all ligaments, in both
    knees, some 20 years ago).

    I can enquire where they came from, if you're in need.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 3, 2008
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  20. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Noo, that can't be ..
    Dunno, never used it meself ..
    Apparently ..
    "These aren't the lipsticks you're looking for?"
    Well I'm not sure it's that bad but I get yer point.
    Could be.
    It is. But some are very bothered about it. Luckily our (17yr old)
    Daughter isn't indoctrinated and given some money to buy some clothes
    will head straight for the charity shops and will often come home with
    some very good gear (and clothes <g>). She would also rather spend her
    money on stuff for her 5' corn snake than on a pair of 'fancy'
    trainers. ;-)
    You are very kind. ;-)
    The problem is if she get's too ansy about what I should and shouldn't
    wear she knows I won't go, assuming I was ever going in the first
    place that is. ;-)

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Apr 3, 2008
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