Kids on the back Bill

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/southern_counties/4247965.stm

An East Sussex MP is putting the case for stopping under-16s from riding as
passengers on motorbikes before parliament on Wednesday.
Eastbourne MP Nigel Waterson is presenting a 10-minute bill to stop children
riding motorbikes after the death of a Sean Pearce-Weston, eight.
Sean was riding pillion when a car went into the back of the 750cc bike in
May 2004 on the A27 Polegate bypass

Is this just another knee jerk reaction or will the Bill be passed ?

 

Why not ban cars from driving into the back of motorbikes?

 

I'd suggest banning any new legislation that affects <0.25% of the
population.

 

Nazi.

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The speccy Geordie twat.

 

As I understand it, private members bills have almost no chance of
becoming law. Rarely, they are picked up as part of a government bill
in the next legislative session.

Anyway, I'm in a complaining mood, so I've emailed the MP.
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Do you want to complain to British Gas for me? I wanted to move
suppliers because of their ineptitude and I received a letter this
morning saying I can't move as I have money owing on the account. I
don't owe money, I'm on a fucking pre-payment meter FFS. I've spent
£12.22 on phone calls to them since June about this (not including the
last round of calls) and they tell me they'll investigate as there isn't
any debt showing on my account. There's already an investigation going
on which they say they'll investigate (FFS!) so they'll escalate the
first investigation. Well, that's not the half of it. They've still not
refunded money to me they owe, I had some credit wiped off the meter
when they last tried to "fix" the situation and they've caused me no end
of fucking grief. As I pointed out to about the fifth person I spoke to
after they had me on hold and put me through from one department to
another, I only have to see a British Gas envelope and I get pissed off
before I open the fucking thing.

*Loud sigh*

 

Champ fumbled, fiddled and fingered:

Ditto via http://www.writetothem.com



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I'm stumped. I need an East Sussex postcode from Nigel Waterson's
constituency.

 

BN20 8QJ

 

Eh? According to http://www.nigelwaterson.com/ you can just email him
at
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Champ
GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2
GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8
Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com

 

Champ wrote

I won't be emailing mine, the man is weirder than I am.

 

I got it in the end - but using the http://www.writetothem.com website
Steve Parry posted (as I was) I needed to supply a post-code. It then shows
the MPs covering that post-code. Nigel Waterson isn't a Shropshire MP so I
couldn't use my own postcode. In short, I'd have been better off Googling
for him.

Anyway, it's sorted now. I've emailed him. World peace is sure to follow.

 

I sold my beloved GpZ 900r to a chap who promptly made page 5 of the
Daily Mirror with it (other papers too).

It seems that he was in the process of a messy divorce and one of the
ways in which his ex used their kids as a weapon against him was to
complain to the court that he was taking their young son on the back of
the bike during his weekly access and therefore placing him in danger.

The court denied her complaint because it decided that such behaviour
was not in any way a danger to the child.

Thereby setting a legal precedent, IIRC, that being carried as a
passenger on a motorcycle cannot be considered as dangerous !

I don't know, nor do I care what the political motivation is behind this
MP's latest pearl of wisdom, but if the A27 Polegate bypass runs through
his constituency I'd tend to think that he may be playing up a locally
emotive subject during an election year.

If he is, and I was a close relative of Sean Pearce-Weston, I'd probably
let him know how great an exception I took to his electioneering.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people, eight year olds don't die
just because they're riding pillion.


Banditfrenzy.
Life lesson No' 457.
"However deep it is, the world will not stop for your grief".

 

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dr Ivan D. Reid"

No; Whore Oldpiece, the butcher's daughter.

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It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the

Quite right. We can all learn a lesson from the humble Gnu.

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This is a really long and really boring essay, so unless you're
interested in full details of my argument with NU then skip it.

Been there, done that and got the T shirt, but with Norwich Union. I
declined their car insurance renewal offer 3 years ago because for some
strange reason they decided they wanted £780 per annum - the preceeding
year was £350. I switched to masterquote, phoned NU and told them I was
cancelling, and then MQ got proof of no claims from NU - you would think
it would be simple.

I'm not good at knowing how much money should be in the bank account at
any one time, and as for DDs I generally ignore them and assume they're
supposed to be coming out - especially when there was insurance coming
out for 2 cars, 2 bikes, and several life insurance and pension funds, so
it was only when I got a renewal notice from NU the following year that I
realised there was a problem.

I checked the bank account, they had already had £740ish so I cancelled
the DD online, although there was only one more months payment for them
to take and I phoned them. The girl at the NU was great, she asked that
I fax the insurance certificate from MQ and she would refund the money.
I faxed the certificate, called her back and she assured me the money
would be credited to our account within the week.

1 week later - no money and the first of the letters demanding the 30 odd
quid for the final months DD. Phoned up NU and ended up on the line to
an Indian call centre where some git told me there was nothing on the
computer about my previous call and promised refund. He said I would not
get the money back and I had no right to it <Grrrr>

Phoned main reception and asked for a UK call centre - the receptionist
was very snotty (I think she thought I was being racist)and put me
through to India again. This time the girl said I could have the money,
but I would have to post the certificate of insurance to a UK address (I
posted a photocopy)

Following week first warning letter arrives from NU over the outstanding
DD - phoned again, was told everything was ok and refund was being
processed.

Week after - next snotty letter arrived

Week after - letter threatening CCJ - phoned again - I was told to ignore
any further letters as everything was ok and refund still being
processed.

Week after - letter through the door from debt collection agency
informing me that the bailiffs would be round the following Wednesday.

This time I kind of lost my temper - needless to say my money was
instantly refunded by CHAPS, the debt collection agency was informed both
by myself and NU, and a letter was sent to me from NU stating that not
only that I did not owe them any money, but that they would also get the
mark things removed from my credit rating.

I did tell NU exactly what I thought of them, and I did get re-imbursed
for some of my phonecalls - but basically I would never insure anything
with them again, nor do I tend to use companies which have overseas call
centres - not for racist reasons, but because no one has a clue what is
going on from one call centre to the other.

I found the only way to get any result was to seriously blow my top, but
I hate doing it because I used to work for Argos customer service call
centre as a cs advisor on the phones. The staff on the phones have no
power to do anything, the supervisors don't have much more, and you are
sworn at 8 hours a day, 5 days a week.

The "fun" bit is trying to do 12 calls per hour - you get nothing solved
and the customer gets more and more pissed off. I was constantly on
probation for my call times, but I was one of the few staff who ever
solved anything. In the end I left, $4.50 per hour was not worth giving
myself a stomach ulcer.

 

Nope, I read all of it and much of it sound like what I'm going through
with BG.

How do you blow your top btw? I tried getting angry but they just put me
on hold. I mentioned that the reason for me moving my business was
because of all this shit and now they say they can't transfer me because
my account is in debt.

Ah, that's the thing. I never like NU from the very beginning because
"Sanjit" answered the phone, didn't know how to spell 'Mark' and wanted
to know what a 'Honda' was. That was more than enough for me so I
gracefully put the phone down without entertaining them any further.

I was also pissed of with BG today because one of the people I spoke to
was as clueless as someone who had less than a clue about anything. I
mean even less of a clue than someone who had just left school. As soon
as I heard her voice I knew I was going to get less than nowhere and I
wasn't wrong!

I must have made at least 30 phone calls to British Gas about this poxy
account since June and all of them because they've fucked something up
and haven't fixed it.

So what happened between losing your temper and getting your money
refunded, and what's CHAPS? How did they suddenly know to give you the
money and get it sorted out?

I'm going to vent my spleen at British Gas, too, if I ever get the
chance. I want all this shit sorted out first which may not be a good
thing because once it's done to my satisfaction, I'll be happy enough
that I'm free of the clueless twats.

OK, so how do I blow my top again?

I left my last place of employment for similar reasons, trust me.

 

*ding*

Had /exactly/ the same thing with NU - they seem to like to pretend that
it's a special safety-net service, that they automatically renew your
insurance if they don't get a response to their renewal quote.

Except they did get a response, and an opportunity to match the AA's quote,
which they couldn't.

"We don't have any record of that, sir."
"You're all lying cunts. I want my fucking money back."

....which I did get, eventually. The most ludicrous bit was the droids I had
to speak to every time I called to chase them up (not Indian, just thick),
who kept trying to sell me house insurance or the like. You can imagine how
I responded to that...

 

platypus wrote

This is far too common a story, one I could tell many times myself. The
solution is actually quite simple, you open the conversation by
requesting a complaint reference number. Odd how they never seem to
forget/mislay/ignore your complaint after that.

 

Bear says...

I've had the same problem with NTL, and with British Gas.

I'm now having major problems with solicitors, estate agents and
purchasers. I'm beginning to get a little fed up with it all. I need
a secretary.

Still, if the house ever gets sold I /could/ buy a nice new ZX10.