[QUOTE="Nev.."] well I'm convinced.[/QUOTE] So am I. My chain's never failed.
I have shaft drives nowadays so drive line mess/lube is something that i really enjoy not thinking about. But good to see you can take advice...it did happen to these 2 fellas & they were both in the 'you'd have to be an idiot to let it catch you' club prior to joining that club.
I spose if your sitting in a waiting room for 12 hours waiting to be looked at & youve got a mobile with a cam in it....but man i feel sorry for him/her. I took the top of mine off with a hand saw. The saw jamed in a tree branch so i gave it a big push.. cheap plastic handle split open & the back of the blade came into the handle. I can still remember those deadening needles going in & i recon the entire hospital can still remember what i said. Dont **** with running bike chains girls & boys. At least riders of messy bikes have 10 fingers.
What does a failed O ring look like? Does it all like firy, explosions, call out the national guard. Or is it something so small its undetectable, you may never know the o ring has failed, and the power of the bike just pushes it along.
Thanks Pope JP II, real glad I 'offered' that suggestion, these responses could have just saved me a LOT of pain... yep, I was thinking its 'safe' since having the cloth at the back past the teeth, but like you say.. ..doesnt matter if you think you're safe since it still happens! Also says something that people here are good advice givers, in hindsight I'm suprised people didnt post a heap of abuse, it was all shot nicely! jolly good show Kind Regards JasonBW
They 'crashed' in alphabetical order, yeah. Challenger had an o-ring, fail the result of trying to operate at ambient temperatures well below acceptable. The o-rings were quite solid - not nearly flexible enough at that temperature, and when the tanks twisted under the load of lift-off, the o-rings simply lifted and allowed hot gases to blow past. Columbia: a briefcase-sized chunk of insulating foam from a forward bipod ramp (one of the mount points for the large oxygen tank) went awol and impacted the leading edge of the left wing somwhere around panel #7 and #8. The undetected damage left a breach in the wing that allowed hot gases to enter the wing interior during re-entry and effectivly melt everything structural on the inside. The Columbia broke up during the latter stages of entry. Those are material causes only. The real causes in both cases were institutional. We use the Challenger disaster as a case study to teach principles of organisational structure to MBA students. (I've seen that video a hundred times "I believe this nation must commit itself to the goal, before this decade is out,..."... "no teacher has ever been more prepared, for one lesson, in my life" The o-ring failure was largely immaterial. A quick look at the way the organisation operates will tell you that if the o-ring didn't fail, something equally catastrophic would have gotten them sooner or later anyway. What they had was an organisational structure that leant itself to blaming other departments, applying pressure from above, generally shuffling blame around and making everything someone else's problem. They operated in an environment where pressure (from the top) to perform was so high that no-one wanted to be the person who called "no flight". The Shuttle program was costing far more money, flying far less often and having far more problems than anyone told Congress when they approved it, and so there was a lot of pressure from on high to perform. In the case of the Challenger incident, the engineers from Thiocol Engineering (the company that made the booster rockets) made it very clear on the morning of the STS-51L launch that flying that day would be a stupid and unacceptable risk. They launched anyway. Need Another Seven Astronauts. Seventeen years later, they lost Columbia in a disturbinly similar way. The material cause was different, and the technical parts of the report make quite interesting reading. The frightening part is that, those fuckers in NASA management didn't learn a bloody thing from Challenger. Chances are they won't learn anything from Columbia either. I wonder if they'll learn from Discovery. (As an aside, the Australian guy, Andy Thomas, is scheduled to fly on Discovery in the next few months, flight STS-114, the first flight back after Columbia) GB
So to summaries this if you loose an o ring, you will explode into a firy ball and die? they always told me that motorcycles were dangerious but what has this got to do with a kero sprayer?
Yes, but only in alphabetical order. If your kero sprayer is a cheap one with non-kero-tolerant o-rings, then you will explode into a fiery ball and die. GB
You use the kero sprayer to douse the fire. Seriously, there are sprayers available for kero, but they're not the ones in the $2 shop. If you have an empty Armour-All sprayer that will work fine. I use the sprayer attached to my compressor if I want to clean things. 50% kero, 50% degreaser works well for me. Theo