Kero sprayers

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Mad-Biker, Mar 26, 2005.

  1. So am I. My chain's never failed.
     
    Pisshead Pete, Mar 27, 2005
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  2. Yeah, it was a primary belt that got his primary finger.
     
    Pisshead Pete, Mar 27, 2005
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  3. Nev.. said....
    What if the Chinese comes in a cardboard container?
     
    Martin Taylor, Mar 27, 2005
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    sharkey Guest

    I was going to try this, but I can't find anywhere selling
    Bavarian take-away.

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Mar 27, 2005
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    paul the 2nd Guest

    I have shaft drives nowadays so drive line mess/lube is something that i
    really enjoy not thinking about. But good to see you can take advice...it
    did happen to these 2 fellas & they were both in the 'you'd have to be an
    idiot to let it catch you' club prior to joining that club.
     
    paul the 2nd, Mar 28, 2005
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    paul the 2nd Guest

    I spose if your sitting in a waiting room for 12 hours waiting to be looked
    at & youve got a mobile with a cam in it....but man i feel sorry for
    him/her. I took the top of mine off with a hand saw. The saw jamed in a tree
    branch so i gave it a big push.. cheap plastic handle split open & the back
    of the blade came into the handle. I can still remember those deadening
    needles going in & i recon the entire hospital can still remember what i
    said.

    Dont **** with running bike chains girls & boys. At least riders of messy
    bikes have 10 fingers.
     
    paul the 2nd, Mar 28, 2005
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  7. work?

    Carotin?

    Postman Pat
     
    Pat Heslewood, Mar 28, 2005
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  8. Pat Heslewood, Mar 28, 2005
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    Mad-Biker Guest

    What does a failed O ring look like?

    Does it all like firy, explosions, call out the national guard.

    Or is it something so small its undetectable, you may never know the o ring
    has failed, and the power of the bike just pushes it along.
     
    Mad-Biker, Mar 28, 2005
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    Jason Woods Guest

    Thanks Pope JP II, real glad I 'offered' that suggestion, these responses
    could have just saved me a LOT of pain... yep, I was thinking its 'safe'
    since having the cloth at the back past the teeth, but like you say..
    ..doesnt matter if you think you're safe since it still happens!

    Also says something that people here are good advice givers, in hindsight
    I'm suprised people didnt post a heap of abuse, it was all shot nicely!
    jolly good show :)

    Kind Regards
    JasonBW
     
    Jason Woods, Mar 28, 2005
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    Jason Woods Guest

    he hehe, too late...

    Jason
     
    Jason Woods, Mar 28, 2005
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    sharkey Guest

    Bastard! I was about to post that!

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Mar 28, 2005
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    GB Guest

    It was a fairly big o-ring on the Challenger.

    GB
     
    GB, Mar 28, 2005
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    GB Guest

    They 'crashed' in alphabetical order, yeah. Challenger had an o-ring,
    fail the result of trying to operate at ambient temperatures well below
    acceptable. The o-rings were quite solid - not nearly flexible enough
    at that temperature, and when the tanks twisted under the load of
    lift-off, the o-rings simply lifted and allowed hot gases to blow past.

    Columbia: a briefcase-sized chunk of insulating foam from a forward
    bipod ramp (one of the mount points for the large oxygen tank) went
    awol and impacted the leading edge of the left wing somwhere around
    panel #7 and #8. The undetected damage left a breach in the wing that
    allowed hot gases to enter the wing interior during re-entry and
    effectivly melt everything structural on the inside. The Columbia
    broke up during the latter stages of entry.


    Those are material causes only. The real causes in both cases were
    institutional.

    We use the Challenger disaster as a case study to teach principles
    of organisational structure to MBA students. (I've seen that video
    a hundred times "I believe this nation must commit itself to the
    goal, before this decade is out,..."... "no teacher has ever been
    more prepared, for one lesson, in my life"


    The o-ring failure was largely immaterial. A quick look at the way
    the organisation operates will tell you that if the o-ring didn't
    fail, something equally catastrophic would have gotten them sooner
    or later anyway.

    What they had was an organisational structure that leant itself
    to blaming other departments, applying pressure from above, generally
    shuffling blame around and making everything someone else's problem.
    They operated in an environment where pressure (from the top) to
    perform was so high that no-one wanted to be the person who called
    "no flight". The Shuttle program was costing far more money, flying
    far less often and having far more problems than anyone told Congress
    when they approved it, and so there was a lot of pressure from on
    high to perform.


    In the case of the Challenger incident, the engineers from Thiocol
    Engineering (the company that made the booster rockets) made it
    very clear on the morning of the STS-51L launch that flying that
    day would be a stupid and unacceptable risk.

    They launched anyway. Need Another Seven Astronauts.



    Seventeen years later, they lost Columbia in a disturbinly similar
    way. The material cause was different, and the technical parts of
    the report make quite interesting reading.


    The frightening part is that, those fuckers in NASA management
    didn't learn a bloody thing from Challenger. Chances are they
    won't learn anything from Columbia either. I wonder if they'll
    learn from Discovery.


    (As an aside, the Australian guy, Andy Thomas, is scheduled to
    fly on Discovery in the next few months, flight STS-114, the
    first flight back after Columbia)



    GB
     
    GB, Mar 28, 2005
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    And a few biologicals as well.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Mar 29, 2005
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    Mad-Biker Guest

    So to summaries this

    if you loose an o ring, you will explode into a firy ball and die?

    they always told me that motorcycles were dangerious

    but what has this got to do with a kero sprayer?
     
    Mad-Biker, Mar 29, 2005
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    GB Guest

    Yes, but only in alphabetical order.
    If your kero sprayer is a cheap one with non-kero-tolerant
    o-rings, then you will explode into a fiery ball and die.

    GB
     
    GB, Mar 29, 2005
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    Bummers Guest

    You know when an o-ring has failed by the seized link
    Bummers
     
    Bummers, Mar 29, 2005
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    You use the kero sprayer to douse the fire.

    Seriously, there are sprayers available for kero, but they're not the ones
    in the $2 shop. If you have an empty Armour-All sprayer that will work fine.
    I use the sprayer attached to my compressor if I want to clean things. 50%
    kero, 50% degreaser works well for me.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Mar 30, 2005
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    Mad-Biker Guest

    Get out of here with your noncence

    You dont expect us to believe that load of horse manure
     
    Mad-Biker, Mar 30, 2005
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