Kero sprayers

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Mad-Biker, Mar 26, 2005.

  1. Mad-Biker

    Mad-Biker Guest

    Ok ive been through a dozen of these small atomizer spray bottles, they all
    seem to kill them selves after 1 or 2 turns.

    I use em to spray kero on the chain when cleaning them.

    IS their any that the kero wont eat and will last?

    I saw a 2L garden sprayer for $10, made for chemicals etc, would that work?
     
    Mad-Biker, Mar 26, 2005
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    Johnnie5 Guest

    buy a chain scrubber from http://www.whipps.com.au/home.htm

    best thing to clean the chain with

    I have a big 4-6 litre pump up garden sprayer that has lasted quite a few
    years with all sorts of stuff being used in it
     
    Johnnie5, Mar 26, 2005
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    Jason Woods Guest

    The problem isnt the container, its the use of it which involves your cat
    spraying it directly into its rectum causing cat farts !

    WTF? see aus.pets.... no-one is safe...

    JasonBW - smiling...
     
    Jason Woods, Mar 26, 2005
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    GB Guest

    Make sure it's a Chinese takeaway, 'cos an Indian takeaway
    in the same container will cost you $6.00 more for a similarly
    sized meal. Greedy buggers!

    GB, I slept with a Chinese girl once. Felt like another one
    an hour later.
     
    GB, Mar 26, 2005
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    GB Guest

    GB, Mar 26, 2005
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    Mad-Biker Guest

    OI

    leave my cats out of it..


     
    Mad-Biker, Mar 26, 2005
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    Jason Woods Guest

    Now for the helpful version...

    I've been able to get a great clean chain by running the bike on its
    centrestand (or rear stand) in gear while using a think cloth gently held
    over the running chain, the part of the cloth held on to the chain should
    be sprayed well with whatever chain lube you use, you'll find it turn black
    pretty quick so you'll need to keep moving to a clean section and
    re-spraying that part of the cloth.

    Overall gives a shit hot finish to the chain using nothing but chain lube...
    must be good for it I figure.

    Hope that helps
    JasonBW
     
    Jason Woods, Mar 26, 2005
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    Marty H Guest

    Marty H, Mar 26, 2005
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    Mad-Biker Guest

    Mad-Biker, Mar 26, 2005
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    paul the 2nd Guest

    I know 2 blokes that have lost fingers doing this exact thing....

    good luck mate & remember this post when it happens.
     
    paul the 2nd, Mar 26, 2005
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    Johnnie5 Guest

    or the not so helpful version
    as long as you wish to keep all your fingers for as long as you live
    i would suggest avoiding this method of cleaning
    yep and plenty of it

    use kero get it for a buck a litre from the pump at older servos
     
    Johnnie5, Mar 26, 2005
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    Kevin(Bluey) Guest

    Get the ones that you put CRC into they are made for petroleum liquids
    ,they have CRC embossed on the bottle.
    I think you can get them from industrial supply places,like Blackwoods.
     
    Kevin(Bluey), Mar 26, 2005
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  13. I know two too and a belt got one. If he didn't live so far from hospital
    and his mate remembered to grab it before they got to hospital he'd still
    have it.
     
    Pisshead Pete, Mar 26, 2005
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    Jason Woods Guest

    oh shit, considering how slow it went I never thought of that
    possibility...its not the speed that counts tho... okaaaaay, - not doing
    that again...

    Thanks
    JasonBW
     
    Jason Woods, Mar 26, 2005
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    paul the 2nd Guest

    I never thought a belt could do it but having never been near one i assume a
    big fat harley needs some tension down there. One of the fellas i know got
    it all stitched back (smashed 2 or 3 of them from memory) on & he now uses
    his index finger as a 'drift' to line stuff up with as he says its got the
    same amount of feeling as one. The other bloke i still run into quite often
    & it came off below the 1st knuckle.

    He does the old 'stick the stump up his nose to frighten kids' trick on his
    3rd beer without exception.
     
    paul the 2nd, Mar 26, 2005
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    Bummers Guest

    How about this - : "Mick's theory".
    Bummers

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Mick

    Well its time to change the Sprockets.
    86,000klms and they need a change. The wear is just too great to go any
    further. I will be doing it early next week. It will be a sad day but alas I
    have to do it.

    Mick
    ZX9R01

    First you have to understand this only works on O-Ring chains.
    Non O-Ring chains MUST be lubed regularly on motorcycles.

    How the chain works;
    Don't want to patronise but you have to grasp this and all falls into place.

    Basic Parts-
    Side Plates (length and pitch to chain)
    O-Ring (keeps factory lube in and grit out)
    Hardened Pin (joins side plates for pitch & runs in the lube)
    Outer Roller (SUPPORTS HARDENED PIN)

    Nearly all the friction/movement on a chain happens between the Hardened Pin
    and the Outer Roller. Once the Outer Roller makes contact with the Sprocket
    it fundamentally should not move again. Only the Hardened Pin will move
    inside the Outer Roller as the chain moves around the arc of the Sprocket.

    Lubing the chain enables it to pick up dirt and that gets caught between
    the Outer Roller and the Sprocket, which is where the wear generally comes
    from.

    The dirt and lube mixed together, makes a nice paste for your Sprocket to
    grind away on. If the lube penetrates the link past the O-ring, the chain is
    basically going to fail because grit will work into it and wear the pin
    thus wearing it out prematurely.

    If you lube an O-Ring chain you are only lubing the Outer Roller.

    I know they say that the foaming lubes get past the O-Rings, but if that
    were the case after heavy rain we would soon have rusted Pins inside the
    Outer Roller. A water molecule is 3 parts - H2O (2 parts Hydrogen 1 part
    Oxygen). The molecular structure of the lube would have to be bigger
    (possible 3-5 molecules or more) and thus shouldn't get past the O-Rings.
    And if it did water would also.You get the gist of what I am on about.


    Yes, you can under lube. I have never said not to put something on the
    chain. I just don't put the norm.

    If you are going to go on a long ride more than 300klms then light lubing
    with anything other than wax.
    I NEVER USE A WAX, IT STICKS TO THE CHAIN AND ATTRACTS DIRT.
    Normally a foaming lube and wipe the excess of the chain after.

    About once a month I wash the chain and get the nice shinny gold links
    looking good. I use a mild detergent and sometime a bit of degreaser but not
    under pressure. I will then put some CRC or the like on it to stop rust
    forming.
    I have never had a problem with the O-rings failing.

    I have used this system for over 20 years now. It works for me, that's all I
    can say.
     
    Bummers, Mar 27, 2005
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    John Guest

    Jason did write....
    Don't listen to them mate - you are covered... you did say you put a
    THINK cloth on the chain..... ;)

    Johno

    PS - Do agree with the comments - avoid doing it that way
     
    John, Mar 27, 2005
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    Jason Woods Guest

    :) good shot mate !

    JasonBW
     
    Jason Woods, Mar 27, 2005
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    Gary Woodman Guest

    The latter happened to a friend just a few months ago. She says at least she can get a 10%
    discount on a manicure. One more reason, if any more were needed, to stay well away from
    exposed chains.

    Gary
     
    Gary Woodman, Mar 27, 2005
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    Bummers Guest

    He reckons he doesn't.
     
    Bummers, Mar 27, 2005
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