Kawi ZZR600 Slip-on/HP Advice

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by martinelli, Jul 15, 2006.

  1. martinelli

    martinelli Guest

    I have a new 2006 ZZR600. Like to know what is the best exhaust slip-on
    for my bike. My bike is fully stock and no mods have been made. Like to
    get some extra HP out of it...what is the best way to do this?
     
    martinelli, Jul 15, 2006
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  2. martinelli

    FB Guest

    Oh, yass. Buy the most expen$ive slip-on can you can find. Get a
    slip-on that's made of iridescent unobtanium and has a faux carbon
    fibre cover and the signature of somebody who sounds like a dead
    Italian dreamer. It will make the $eller $mile.

    Bzzzzt! Aftermarket exhaust pipes don't do very much (if anything) for
    increasing your power. In fact, you may realize LESS horsepower than
    stock if the slip-on has less back pressure.

    That's because Kawasaki engineers worked hard to design an exhaust
    system that would give you the best all around performance out of an
    engine that doesn't pollute the planet very much.

    Exhaust systems have a tuned length. The tuned length works with the
    speed of sound in the hot exhaust gasses. If you change the temperature
    of the hot exhaust gasses, you change the speed of sound through those
    gasses.

    If you install a louder aftermarket slip-on can, the temperature in the
    exhaust gasses will be cooler, so the careful tuning the Kawasaki
    engineers did is for nothing, the exhaust pollutes more and the rider
    feels the midrange flat spot that the engineers worked so hard to
    minimize.

    But you can easily make the exhaust gasses hot enough to make the
    exhaust tuning work again. You just have to run the engine harder, by
    using more throttle and more RPM. If you ride very, very, very hard,
    you may get a "performance award" from the local constable.

    But that's not what you really *wanted* when you selected a slip-on
    canister.

    Besides "bragging rights", you *really* wanted more mid range and low
    end torque so your machine would be more responsive in street riding.
    And you wanted a deeper, more "mellow" sound, like you'd get from a
    larger displacement motorcycle.

    You wanted other riders and car drivers to RESPECT you.

    Why not just buy a ZX-7R, or a GSXR-1000? No money?
    You don't REALLY want more horsepower. Horsepower is the mathematical
    product of an engineering equation that says Horsepower equals (torque
    X RPM) divided by 5252.

    You can easily see from that f you want more power, you have to turn
    the engine faster and you have to risk making more noise and attracting
    the attention of the stern gentleman with the citation book and
    enduring the sneering myopia of the magistrate as you pay the fine and
    promise to remove the offending canister and never use it again.

    What you REALLY want is more TORQUE at a lower RPM.

    You REALLY want more roll-on response, you really want your machine to
    have snappy acceleration from a stoplight or when you need to show an
    automobile driver who is boss.

    One way to get snappy acceleration is to change the gearing. This
    modification doesn't actually give you more TORQUE, it just MULTIPLIES
    the torque that your stock engine produces.

    Install a rear sprocket with three more teeth, or install a front
    sprocket with one less tooth. You probably don't ride all day in 6th
    gear at 130 mph anyway, unless maybe you go to France and head for the
    Bol D'Or.

    Another way to get snappy response is to install an ignition advancer,
    if such a thing is available for your machine. It's a bit that bolts to
    the end of the crankshaft and makes the ignition fire 3 to 5 degrees
    before the standard timing. That really helps the mid range, because
    you do get a little more torque in the dreaded flat spot around 5,000
    to 8,000 RPM.

    While you're about that modification, you can also find the anti-tamper
    plugs on your carburetors. They are probably underneath, just forward
    of the float bowls. I have described drilling out the anti-tamper plugs
    about a bazillion times so I won't repeat that here.

    Once you can get to the idle mixture screws, opening them 1/4 to 1/2 of
    a turn will make your engine respond to the throttle much better.

    Now, back to the original issue of after-market slip-on canisters. You
    will hear guys with more money than sense standing around with a bunch
    of other sportriders and loudly boasting about how their $25,000 Ducati
    999 Corsa runs SO MUCH BETTER with the Leo Vince signature can or the
    Termite slip-on.

    But, if aftermarket cans don't actually DO anything, what else did the
    Bucks Up Bozos do to make their machines run enough better that they
    could feel it close to their anuses?

    Answer: they changed the fuel injection mapping and the ignition curve
    in their ECU
    by plugging their laptop into it and reprogramming the chip.

    Perhaps you still want a deeper, more masculine sound from your stock
    exhaust system? There is probably a drain hole in the stock muffler
    that lets condensation drip out. This helps keep the exhaust system
    from rusting out prematurely.

    The drain hole is probably very close to the exhaust collector. Take an
    electric drill and make the hole progressively larger, until you get
    the authoritative sound that excites you.

    Then, if the constable stops you for a loud exhaust system, you can
    just thread a large sheetmetal screw into the larger hole and take your
    machine down to the inspection station and get the citation cleared
    off.
     
    FB, Jul 15, 2006
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  3. martinelli

    omnio Guest

    wow nice response. great feedback. i am not interested in being loud.
    not interested in showing off. i just want a tad more torque. i have
    never added anything to my other bikes and this is my first semi sport
    bike. so, the idea of a sproket mod seems attractive. I just would
    like to have a sped from the start than what i am getting from the
    stock system. i look forward to researching sproket solutions....any
    ideas where/what i can use/get? thanks!
     
    omnio, Jul 15, 2006
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  4. martinelli

    OH- Guest

    Sage words. These 100+ HP 600's are the amazing result of a HP
    race in a very competitive market segment. The designers had
    to spend a bit of work to get there, they sure did not slap on a bad
    exhaust system or let the shop apprentice progam the fuel injection
    (I'm only guessing here but I suspect this bike has FI and finding
    anti-tamper plugs might prove exedingly hard).
    I still can't make any sense out of lowering the gearing on a bike
    that will smoke the rear tire without trouble. How will making more
    smoke with less throttle get you to the next stop light any faster?

    Apart from drag racing or racing on a closed circuit, all that changing
    the gearing will do in performance terms is to move your shift
    points. And it might get you a few more km/h more top speed, how
    exciting.
    The OP said nothing about going faster, he wanted more HP ;-)
     
    OH-, Jul 16, 2006
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  5. martinelli

    FB Guest

    The Canadian model has carburetors. I dunno what the European and
    British models might have, but, if the idle circuits can be easily
    tweaked, the OP can help out the off-idle response and the cold
    starting and warm up phase.

    Kawasaki also has KTric digital ignition to enhance mid-range
    performance, so maybe the OP can reprogram his ignition advance more to
    his liking.

    His aftermarket canister idea is unlikely to produce more than maybe 1
    horsepower extra.
    It's claimed that the ZZR600 has 111 horsepower, so maybe it will smoke
    the tire. But, if it won't and the OP wants to "hooliganize" his
    machine for less than $75, he might get his jollies that way instead of
    mucking about in the oily innards of his engine and doing nothing but
    making the machine harder to ride.
     
    FB, Jul 16, 2006
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  6. martinelli

    FB Guest

    When your original equipment chain and sprockets wear out, try an
    aftermarket sprocket kit to see if you like the performance of a
    motorcycle that is "geared" slightly lower.

    Check out the advertisement pages of whatever motorcycle magazines are
    popular where you live and see what mail order companies advertise in
    them and go to their online catalogue site or telephone them for a free
    catalog.

    Here in the USA, Sprocket Specialists and RK have aftermarket chain and
    sprocket kits for less than half the price of an original equipment
    chain and sprockets.

    My GSXR750 was geared a bit tall from the factory, I didn't really
    *need* to go 150 mph, 140 mph is plenty fast.

    So my roadracing friend (who just happened to run a mail order parts
    business)advised me to install a rear sprocket with just two more teeth
    than stock. Another rider on a GSXR1000 asked what kind of work I had
    done to the engine when he had a hard time catching me.

    I told him, "No internal engine work, just larger carburetors, a loud
    competition only Yoshimura exhaust pipe, and two more teeth on the rear
    sprocket. Oh, and a 5 degree ignition advancer under the side cover."

    That's as deep as I wanted to go into that engine.
     
    FB, Jul 16, 2006
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  7. To be fair, and brutally honest, some bikes are indeed restricted by
    strangled cans, and a surprising amount of horsepower can be liberated
    by swift can change.. The Suzuki 1200 Bandit is a prime example (see
    earlier thread).

    The ZZR600 is not in this category, however.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 16, 2006
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  8. Erm, you suspect wrong.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 16, 2006
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  9. Agree absolutely.

    However, one must always beware of sweeping generalisations. Some
    aftermarket cans work very well.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 16, 2006
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