K&N air filter

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Dusty, Oct 4, 2007.

  1. Dusty

    Dusty Guest

    Have any of you put on a K&N air filter and if so what do you think of the
    performance of it ?
    Dusty
     
    Dusty, Oct 4, 2007
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  2. Dusty

    Ken Abrams Guest

    K&N would like you to think that their low restriction filters will give you
    better performance.
    If you change nothing else, you are likely to get WORSE performance.
    WHY?
    Strict emission standards make it necessary for the mfg. to design their
    engines to run as lean as possible. The carb or FI is set to do that with
    all the stock equipment (intake and exhaust). If you increase the intake
    flow or reduce the exhaust back pressure (without changing the mixture) it
    is likely that you will run even leaner and end up with exactly the opposite
    of what you wanted.

    Is there a place for K&N? Sure, as long as you realize what you are getting
    yourself into. Typically to achieve any actual gains (which are often small
    and not worth the effort), one must open up the intake AND the exhaust AND
    re-jet the carb(s) or reprogram the FI. This can be expensive and time
    consuming.

    Want to see how your bike will run with a K&N? Wait for a calm day when
    there isn't a lot of dust blowing around, take the stock air cleaner OFF and
    ride it a couple of miles on clean pavement. You may find that it runs so
    crappy that you don't get past the first block.
    And no, that won't hurt anything.
     
    Ken Abrams, Oct 4, 2007
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  3. I replaced a K&N filter with stock and saw no difference
    in performance.
    over the map, depending on how recently the filter
    was cleaned. I ride a lot of dusty conditions and was
    worried about the K&N possibly allowing more crud
    into the engine. The stock filter works fine, does not
    impede performance and it's what the engine is speced
    for.

    I ought to stash a replacement filter though. Thanks for
    making me think of this.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Oct 4, 2007
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  4. Dusty

    OH- Guest

    Two things:
    I had a K&N on my Yamaha XT and I guess it hardly made brake even
    economically. OK, it lasted as long as 2, 3 or possibly 4 OEM paper
    filters. But - it cost more to buy, I got a clean and reoil kit that cost
    like one
    Yamaha filter and after a much shorter time than eternity the seal strip
    on the edge of the K&N was loose.
    Believe me, I really tried to fix a new seal or get the original one back in
    place but I just didn't have any glue that could do the job.

    My other point is the clean and reoil thing. No matter what K&N say, you
    must wash the filter sometimes because caked on dirt, dead flies and
    dried leaves will not pass much air. And after cleaning, you must reoil.
    Oil too little and you have a screen that will not protect your engine. Oil
    too much and you have a bad copy of water and windproof Belstaff
    waxed cotton and an engine gasping for air. I never got this quite right
    and because I'm a cautious man I had periods with distinctly sub par
    performance.

    Paper filters are good for street and oiled foam has worked fine for
    me in the dirt, I'll pass on the oiled fabric ones, thanks.
     
    OH-, Oct 5, 2007
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  5. [re K&N]
    You've had better experience with oiled foam than with K&N ?

    I went back to paper for mostly street riding but have wondered
    about foam aftermarket.

    What brand ? Easier to manage the oiling and get it right ?

    Thanks
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Oct 5, 2007
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  6. Dusty

    OH- Guest

    Yes much easier, just saturate and then squeeze out the excess.
    Not even terribly messy if oiling and most of the squeezing is
    done inside a plastic bag.

    Nope, not aftermarket, original Suzuki TS125X, Yamaha
    TT600R and WR450.
     
    OH-, Oct 6, 2007
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