Just to add fuel to the Government control debate.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23025498-661,00.html

Cheers,
Dale.

 

"It's believed a trial of the technology will soon be held in Victoria,
with several ministers, Chief Commissioner of Police Christine Nixon, a
former state coroner and 45 others likely to have devices fitted to
their cars."

Interesting, the Chief Commissioner of Police and several Government
Ministers, the same people who claim that speed kills, are going to have
to break the law intentionally, and speed, and not die, to prove that
the road toll will be reduced if people don't speed.

Nev..
'04 CBR1100XX

 

I'd be interested to see how they implement this into all the different
types of ECUs (ALL of which are proprietary). Would involve some reverse
engineering at least - so probably won't be installable by an "authorised
installer" (idiots incorporated at the corner shop).

And more interestingly, how they implement this into carby type vehicles.

At least in a manner that can't be defeated with a measly screwdriver and 30
seconds on the side of the road when you pick the car up again...
The ECU-connected system might be more complex to defeat.
You need wirecutters for that.

The most laughable point: "A driver can put their foot flat to the floor if
they need extra power for merging or overtaking"
Sure, who needs a screwdriver. Or wirecutters...

Failing all that, a bit of tinfoil over the gps antenna will do the job nicely.

Also interesting how they will get over the "does not comply with
manufacturer's specs" bit after the modification. You can get exemptions, but
as I understand it, it's a real headache to do.
Much like the remarkably difficult time to get mains grid power to the speed
cameras. But it makes it remarkably easier when you're earning millions each
year in profits...

 

Their spin is making my head spin. Go round that logic a few more times for
me.

Theo

 

The reason for considering these high tech solutions, when our driving
skills and road rule knowledge is not checked when we renew our licences, is
not understood. The biggest single cause of crashes in the ACT is rear
enders (between 46 and 48% of all crashes according to the 2005 figures).
You will greatly increase the chance of having a rear end crash if you do
not look and see what is ahead of you or if you do not allow sufficient
space to stop between yourself and the vehicle ahead of you.

Education and enforcement are required. High tech solutions that can be
easily circumvented are proposed. It seems that science marches on.

John Dwyer

 

Technology can never overcome stupidity.

Theo

 

Well, in the event of this stuff being implemented widely, how much
income would state governments forgo from speed cameras?

regards,
CrazyCam

 

Then there's comment #2 on the story :

I'm sure someone will prove something that we'll be spoonfed as 'good
for us' in some way shape or form.

 

Encourage it, is more likely!

regards,
CrazyCam

 

Evil, but pointed question there !

 

But Nev, maybe they _will_ die.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

Nothing evil about it. How much money are they likely to make from this?

Nothing? It'll cost much and gain nothing? Thought so.

I think it's just vapourware. I doubt it's past the prototype stage.

 

Nothing. They would reap a percentage of each unit sold in tax etc,
possibly even retailing them through government owned corporations such
as the RTA and Vicroads, so for every dollar they lost in speed camera
revenue they would gain in tax/markup/etc on the purchase cost of the
unit from every road user, whether they sped or not.

Nev..
'04 CBR1100XX

 

Madeyes,

You have it all wrong.

They won't put it on, they will order YOU to put it on, at your
expense.

SteveB

 

John Tserkezis wrote...

I wonder if this is the project that some fellow who called himself "Hyperactive
Frootloop" claimed that he was involved with.

http://snurl.com/1x0a0

 

I think the gov't would be most upset if everybody stopped speeding. There
was an article in The West about three years ago saying there was budgetary
concern about the low number of speeding fines at the time. So speeding
fines are in the budget.

Theo

 

Well, that thought cheered me up.

Theo

 

Now there's a can of worms for you. The Fed gov't will make money from the
importation taxes and GST. The State gov'ts will have the cost of
administering the implementation, as they control vehicle rego, and the
State gov'ts will lose the fines revenue.

That's never gonna fly.

Theo

 

Spot on, I've been saying that for years. In WA, the Xmas 'carnage' over the
last five years has been below the daily average.

We doubled most of the fines and increased demerit points last year (OK we
were pretty much the lowest) and we had a 15% increase in deaths. The
solution? Double the fines again. ??

Theo

 

Theo,

What makes you think the Feds get any GST money? All of it is
redistributed back to the states.

Regards

Steve