Just failed the CA DMV motorcycle popsicle test (and I thought Ihad passed)

I'm sure it must seem that way to someone who can't
really ride, can't follow a train of logic, and who thinks
that physics stops working as his bike slows down.

 

Another side-effect of Proposition 13, eh?

Here in Iowa the counties soak you for cages but have reasonable rates
on bikes - I pay the same for an 11-year old Nissan Frontier as for 3
motorcycles, scooter, and trailer combined ($20/year/each).

 

That is no reason to be uncivil.

 

You also thought that your bike stopped countersteering
as it slowed down.

And knowing you, you're going to try arguing about it rather
than learning from the fact that you -once more- didn't know
what you were talking about.

 

They will not let you for the BRC.

 

Hah!

Says the troll whose favorite reply is "**** you".

 

Nonsense. Your fundamental understanding of how a motorcycle steers
differently at low and higher speeds is lacking.

Or are you going to tell me that all the advanced riding schools are
full of nonsense? No one teaches advanced riding skills at low speeds
(with the obvious exception of slow riding instruction). Even the Lee
Parks Total Control curriculum which is done in parking lots and not
race tracks (TC-1 at a SuperMoto track excepted) has the exercises done
at speeds where counter-steering and not direct steering is used.

I saw a guy stick out his inside foot while going into a corner at over
100 mph - heck, he even won the MotoGP race he did it in.

A track stand on a bicycle requires either a fixed gear to move the bike
back and forth, or a slight incline (such as the camber on most streets).

Not even the police slow riding classes expect a rider to balance a
stationary motorcycle.

Anyone who thinks there is no other difference but the throttle is a nitwit.

 

It has taken me a *lot* of practice to be able to hold a steady throttle
and clutch while brake-torque riding. (I practice by creeping up to red
lights during my normal commuting.)

 

No, it's not, Pete. His favorite reply is "**** off!"

Tim

 

Made up insults that do not fit? Is that all you got?

 

Nyuh-uh and ad hominem is not rebuttal.

Race riding instruction is not the equivalent of novice street riding
instruction. You are an example of motorists who think they know it
all, and the hazards of advanced instruction... even if apparently
imaginary.

"The track stand[1] or standstill[2] is a technique that bicycle
riders can use to maintain balance while their bicycle *-remains
stationary-* or moves only minimal distances.

Those proficient at the track stand can maintain the position
indefinitely. More difficult variations, mostly for show or track
stand competitions, involve complications such as putting the non-
dominant foot forward, sitting down, or taking one or both hands off
the handlebars."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Track_stand

You seem to have become lost in a fog consisting of your imagined
superiority and functional illiteracy.

 

You either do not understand what a troll is, or you are a liar.

 

You really are clueless.

 

As is everything in government, it's not really about rider skills.

It's all about M-O-N-E-Y.

The DMV has no interest in certifying riders because it costs M-O-N-E-Y
to do it properly. So, in cahoots with the CMSP (http://www.ca-msp.org)
they offer a "free" test, which tests nothing but which actually is
designed to steer the rider to the CMSP class instead.

The decidedly not-free CMSP class costs M-O-N-E-Y, which, if you look
at the numbers, makes, overall in California, more M-O-N-E-Y than the
entire budget of some cities & even smaller states.

The goal is to fleece as many riders as possible, not to teach them.

 

No legal requirement for any feedback. Only requirement is to follow.

Not a requirement of the law, or even suggested in the DMV manual.

Not something I made any comment on, other than two-way radio
communication is *not* a requirement of the law.

You must not be good at comprehending written English.

 

That max only applies to under-age riders who are
mandated, by law, to take the class.

Those who take the class in lieu of the lillipop
must take a class which has no mandated max.

 

"Few activities in street riding are as frustrating as having to make a
low-speed, tight turn in a limited amount of space - especially if you
don't know the technique. I always teach this skill last in my Advanced
Riding Clinic because it require the exact opposite technique than the
one used in higher speed cornering, and I don't like to confuse people."

Page 86 of Total Control by Lee Parks, 2003 edition.

You really should seek professional help.

 

So why are you using those as your rebuttal?

That is a false accusation, and not even a clever one. If I knew
everything, why would I spend a rather hefty chunk of change for 4 to 6
days of advanced instruction each year?

Have you ever watched racers at a velodrome track standing? They are
certainly not stationary, with the bikes rolling back and forth slightly.

We are not discussing professional acrobat level activities beyond the
capabilities of most persons.

And all you have are foolish insults. (Be we knew that.)

 

What is the MSF policy on class fees? A cursory search of their website
does not show anything.

 

The same reason you have provided no video of your participation...

You seem to have lost track of your ignorance of differences in
advanced racetrack and novice street training, which seems unlikely to
occur to a person of your purported education, training and
experience.

Maybe it's just me...

BTDT. Watching appears to be the limit of your experience.

Because it's easier.

"At some point you'll feel perfect, motionless equilibrium."
http://www.bicycling.com/beginners/bike-skills/track-stand

You blew a couple chances to shut the **** up.

I didn't know foolish means "supported by evidence".

Where's yours that track standing requires a fixie, and a grade...?