Japanese reliability

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Eddie, Apr 13, 2007.

  1. Eddie

    Eddie Guest

    Started the bike this morning to warm up while I put my lid and gloves
    on: sidestand down, in neutral, ignition on, clutch in, thumb starter,
    engine catches, release clutch... oh, it's stopped. Odd.

    Clutch in, thumb starter, engine catches, release clutch... it's stopped
    again. Curses.

    Finish putting on lid and gloves, and get on bike. Sidestand up, clutch
    in, thumb starter, engine catches, release clutch, engine keeps running.

    My educated guess is that the neutral switch isn't talking to the
    sidestand/neutral/clutch interlock doohickey; the neutral idiot light
    was on, so it's not the switch itself.

    Anyone know where the interlock thing lives?

    Is it part of the ignition switch mechanism? There was a problem with
    that last year: the connector had corroded enough to upset Kawasaki's
    anti-hotwire resistance checking trickery, and IIRC one side of the
    connector was replaced with some direct wiring and a load of sealant to
    solve the issue quickly and cheaply. I was meant to sort out a
    replacement, but somehow it's never been fitted...

    (... so much for a reliable Japanese bike... mutter, mutter... never had
    these problems with the Aprilia... mutter...)
     
    Eddie, Apr 13, 2007
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  2. Eddie

    Molly Guest

    I had a similar problem with my old ZXR750. The interlock thingy is hard
    wired between the clutch, neutral switch and sidestand. On my old bike the
    neutral switch (IIRC) was around the area where the clutch cable/pipe went
    in the engine. The switch went on my bike. Sidestand switches are a common
    problem on older bikes and the clutch switch connectors do corrode. I just
    followed the wiring by pulling and poking until I found the connectors then
    crimped on new ones.

    Which model Kawasaki is it?
     
    Molly, Apr 13, 2007
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  3. Eddie

    TOG Guest

    On all Kawasakis I've come across, the wiring from the sidestand
    switch goes behind the sprocket cover. Two wires, that plug into the
    loom via bullet connectors, one male, one female.

    Unplug them, and plug together the now 'empty' bullet connectors in
    the loom bit. Job done.
     
    TOG, Apr 13, 2007
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  4. Eddie

    Eddie Guest

    <TOG@toil>; <>;
    Aye, I know how to do that. I suppose as long as it doesn't think the
    sidestand's down, it doesn't matter whether it think's it's in neutral
    or not.

    Still, it's reminded me to pull my finger out and sort out the ignition
    connector...
     
    Eddie, Apr 13, 2007
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  5. Eddie

    Eddie Guest

    The switches themselves are all fine, since the neutral light works, it
    knows whether the clutch is in or not, and it knows whether the
    sidestand is up or down; it's just the actual interlock that's not
    working, but to get around this I can just do as TOG suggested and
    disable the sidestand switch.
    ZX-9R E2, with added exposure to northern commuting conditions.
     
    Eddie, Apr 13, 2007
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  6. Eddie

    Eddie Guest

    Ah. I'll leave that well alone for now, then.
    I have a not-so-genuine copy of the genuine Kawasaki manual (for a
    slightly older model, but it didn't change that much), so I shall peruse
    it over the weekend.
    Yeah, as long as I can find where they've hidden it.
     
    Eddie, Apr 13, 2007
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  7. Eddie

    Eddie Guest

    Heh... once upon a time I'd have been able to make an educated guess,
    but the number of examples I've looked at closely enough was too small
    and too long ago to be sure.

    Somewhere under the left side panel, yes? Seeing as the neutral and
    sidestand switches are on that side, it would make sense.
     
    Eddie, Apr 13, 2007
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  8. Eddie

    CT Guest

    No, no - you should always cut the *red* one first!
     
    CT, Apr 13, 2007
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  9. Eddie

    Paul - xxx Guest

    aren't you meant to go to the blue for a short while first?
     
    Paul - xxx, Apr 13, 2007
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  10. Eddie

    Simon Wilson Guest

    I -nearly- managed to start my Pan in gear the other day. Was a bit of a
    surprise for sure. I guess I need to check the clutch switch thingmabob.
     
    Simon Wilson, Apr 13, 2007
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  11. Eddie

    Eddie Guest

    I suspected as much... might be the junction box under the seat, I
    guess; I'll study the manual.
     
    Eddie, Apr 13, 2007
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