[QUOTE] Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, 'Hog I don't have a surface grinder. And I keep telling myself I don't really need one. I don't. I don't...[/QUOTE] I'll let you know if we finally decide to throw the one in our workshop away. It's going to cost us nearly a grand for a purpose made (1) wheel guard to replace the fabricated one it's got on it at the moment and we'll probably not bother. (1) Someone has bitched that it's not up to minimum standards and might not stop an exploding wheel from showering everyone in bits of debris. Now a complaint's been made we'd be slaughtered if it did kill someone.