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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Krusty, Jun 2, 2009.

  1. Krusty

    Ace Guest

    Ah, I guessed about right then.
     
    Ace, Jun 4, 2009
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    Krusty Guest

    Eh? When have I ever said I feel poor?

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    '03 Tiger 955i
    '02 MV Senna (for sale) '96 Tiger (for sale)
    '79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)
     
    Krusty, Jun 4, 2009
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    Ben Guest

    I said bills, not outgoings. Pretty much all of those things you
    mentioned are completely subjective. And this is were we come in with
    Ace's "comfortable" because everyone has different opinions and wants
    in those outgoings.

    And there we've come back full circle to Krusty feeling poor.
     
    Ben, Jun 4, 2009
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    ginge Guest

    Ahh that's gone back up a little bit.

    It's all a bit of nonsense anyway as I know I'm doing reasonably well,
    but could earn loads more in or around Her Majesty's 'The South',
    along with the an equivalent increase in living costs.
     
    ginge, Jun 4, 2009
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    Ace Guest

    You shouldn't confuse what was needed to be a Labour MP back in the
    1930s with what's needed today. They are very different indeed.
     
    Ace, Jun 4, 2009
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    Ben Guest

    See response to Champ. I wrote "bills" not "outgoings". As in fixed
    monthly costs for a minimum set of services generally required by
    everyone. Not "other things I want to spend my money on".
     
    Ben, Jun 4, 2009
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    It also failed on Adam Smith's first principle which was, in essence,
    pay tax according to your means. In other words, an income tax not
    some flat rate.

    I'm for a local income tax as a matter of principle. I'm glad the
    LibDems agree.
     
    Colin Irvine, Jun 4, 2009
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    M J Carley Guest

    It has nothing to do with being an MP: there are plenty of people in
    jobs that are `beneath them' because they took the job they could get.
    In the past, some of those people would have become MPs or senior
    trade unionists.

    As for the 1930s, I was thinking of the 60s and 70s. There are still a
    couple of people who got to Parliament that way.
     
    M J Carley, Jun 4, 2009
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    Indeed. I think MPs' salaries need to be high enough not to discourage
    prospective MPs from standing, but not so high as to make the job
    attractive simply by virtue of its salary. Personally I think the
    current level is about right.
     
    Colin Irvine, Jun 4, 2009
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    Switters Guest

    "**** you Jack, I worked my ass off to get a decent education and job,
    whilst you were bullying kids at school and left at 16 to become a free
    loading bum, and now I'm supposed to subsidise you."
     
    Switters, Jun 4, 2009
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    M J Carley Guest

    But bullying kids at school and becoming a free loading bum is what
    princes are supposed to do.
     
    M J Carley, Jun 4, 2009
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    Adrian Guest

    "**** you, Jack, I'm a B-list celeb adding nothing to humankind, whilst
    you work for a pittance for a charity helping those much less fortunate
    than me"
     
    Adrian, Jun 4, 2009
  13. That's a good site. I guess we're in the same constituency. Last time I
    had a LD canvasser on the doorstep I challenged her to come up with some
    good reasons why the LD were better/different from the other main
    parties - she just said "we are different" and walked off.

    Great canvassing!

    Not that I ever vote, but it doesn't stop me whinging.
     
    mike. buckley, Jun 4, 2009
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    Champ Guest

    Oh sure, and I think we're saying the same thing. I would argue that
    the experience of being a shop steward, which requires you to be able
    to deal with different personalities, cope with difficult people,
    negotiate, persuade, etc, was his 'real' job, in that it would give
    him the sort of skills required to be an MP.

    Certainly his personal skillset would be significantly different from
    a shopfloor worker with no union activity.
     
    Champ, Jun 4, 2009
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    Ben Guest

    Lorely Burt?

    She's fairly inoffensive. And her secretary lives across the road
    from my Mum so if I need to moan about the amount of postal spam she
    sends, it's pretty easy.
     
    Ben, Jun 4, 2009
  16. Expect that to increase. A lot.
     
    mike. buckley, Jun 4, 2009
  17. Same MP but it was a minion that did the door to door.

    I've had nothing but standard replies when I've ever felt bothered
    enough to write to her about something.
     
    mike. buckley, Jun 4, 2009
  18. If you pay them a lot you might get unscrupulous moneygrabbing idiots...

    Oh.
     
    Chris Bartram, Jun 4, 2009
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    Jérémy Guest

    Aren't we a rich lot. Apparently I'd be in the top 1% if I lived in the UK.
    I bet I'm not in the top 1% in Switzerland.
     
    Jérémy, Jun 4, 2009
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    Switters Guest

    Indeed. It's an imperfect world guv.
     
    Switters, Jun 4, 2009
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