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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Krusty, Jun 2, 2009.

  1. Krusty

    Ben Guest

    http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/index.php

    Check up on how often the person standing in your constituency has
    vote with or against the whip.
     
    Ben, Jun 4, 2009
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  2. Krusty

    Champ Guest

    Now you're trolling.

    For the demands placed on an MP, it's nowhere near enough. I wouldn't
    do it for that money, and I doubt you would too.
     
    Champ, Jun 4, 2009
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  3. Krusty

    Ben Guest

    Indeed. It's a take-home of about £3500 per month.

    A payment of £2000 per month would get you a mortgage of about
    £350,000. Plenty sufficient to buy a house, particularly if you have
    some equity already. £1500 left over per month is a comfortable
    living.
     
    Ben, Jun 4, 2009
  4. Krusty

    darsy Guest

    hahahah.

    Our monthly food/drink budget is around £1200/month alone.
     
    darsy, Jun 4, 2009
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    CT Guest

    Yes, but this is *you*.

    I expect *most* families *could* live fairly comfortably on £1500/month.

    FWIW, P & I put £500/month each into the joint account and that more
    than pays for our outgoings. And yes, I do realise that you have
    sprogs to feed.
     
    CT, Jun 4, 2009
  6. Krusty

    Krusty Guest

    What if you were working 12 hour shifts in a factory for ?6/hour? Or
    doing the night shift stacking shelves at Asda?

    I'm fairly sure there are many thousands of people who would happily do
    an MP's job for less than 60k.

    --
    Krusty

    '03 Tiger 955i
    '02 MV Senna (for sale) '96 Tiger (for sale)
    '79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)
     
    Krusty, Jun 4, 2009
  7. Krusty

    CT Guest

    Quite. The "I wouldn't do it for that money" lot are comfortably in
    the top 99% of earners as shown in that "Where Do You Fit" in website
    IWHT.
     
    CT, Jun 4, 2009
  8. Krusty

    Champ Guest

    To be blunt, if you're working 12 hour shifts in a factory, you've not
    got the skills to be an MP
     
    Champ, Jun 4, 2009
  9. Krusty

    Champ Guest

    It was only 97% for me!
     
    Champ, Jun 4, 2009
  10. Krusty

    CT Guest

    What skills does one need?
     
    CT, Jun 4, 2009
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    AndrewR Guest


    "Being an MP is a vast subsidized ego-trip. It's a job that needs no
    qualifications, it has no compulsory hours of work, no performance
    standards, and provides a warm room, a telephone and subsidized meals to a
    bunch of self-important windbags and busybodies who suddenly find people
    taking them seriously because they've go the letters 'MP' after the their
    name."

    --
    AndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas)
    Aprilia RSV-1000R, Honda VFR750F-L
    BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL)
    BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, DS#5, COSOC# Suspended, KotTFSTR#
    The speccy Geordie twat.
     
    AndrewR, Jun 4, 2009
  12. Krusty

    darsy Guest

    of course - I wouldn't want to presume to speak for anyone else.
    Well, we certainly used to. But we're talking about MPs here - how
    many of them live in cheap houses, and are frugal with their
    outgoings, do you think? And why should they?
    well, you either live somewhere much cheaper than I do, or have a very
    large amount of equity or no mortgage. Our fixed monthly outgoings
    inc. mortgage, council tax, utilities etc. are easily >2.5K.
    well, yeah. Plus I drink a **** load of champagne ;-)
     
    darsy, Jun 4, 2009
  13. Krusty

    darsy Guest

    *ding*

    for some reason the "60K is more than enough" brigade seem to be under
    the impression that being an MP would be a piece of piss.
     
    darsy, Jun 4, 2009
  14. Krusty

    darsy Guest

    now *you're* trolling, trollen.
     
    darsy, Jun 4, 2009
  15. Krusty

    Krusty Guest

    Massively sweeping & somewhat snobby generalisation, & completely wrong
    imo.

    --
    Krusty

    '03 Tiger 955i
    '02 MV Senna (for sale) '96 Tiger (for sale)
    '79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)
     
    Krusty, Jun 4, 2009
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    CT Guest

    See below.
    Yes, but Ben originally posted £1500 *after* outgoings so that's
    irrelevant.
    Hence the first comment in my reply.
     
    CT, Jun 4, 2009
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    Ace Guest

    I'm confused now, and reading back up the thread doesn't help much.

    Are you saying that those that make more use of the service should pay
    more? So those with no kids wouldn't need to pay for education?
     
    Ace, Jun 4, 2009
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    M J Carley Guest

    Or, presumably, Foreign Secretary:

    At the age of eleven he went to work as a labourer, then as a truck
    driver in Bristol,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Bevin

    or Health Secretary:

    One of ten children, Bevan did poorly at school and his academic
    performance was so bad that his headmaster made him repeat a
    year. At age 13, Bevan left school and began working in the local
    Tytryst Colliery.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aneurin_Bevan

    or founder of the Labour party:

    Hardie grew up in poverty. From the age of eight, Keir was a
    delivery boy for a baker. At the time he was the only wage-earner in
    his family. He was fired from this job because he arrived late to
    work, after looking after his sick mother. With no family income,
    the Hardies had to move back to Lanarkshire. From the age of 11,
    Hardie was working down the pits of Lanarkshire.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keir_Hardie

    or TD and member of the Moscow Soviet:

    At the age of fourteen, after the death of his father, he was
    apprenticed to the firm his father had worked for but was dismissed
    after two years. He was unemployed for a time and then worked as a
    seaman and docker.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Larkin
     
    M J Carley, Jun 4, 2009
  19. Krusty

    Ben Guest

    So how does charging more to a higher earner make it any fairer then?
    Still can't decide not to take the service.
     
    Ben, Jun 4, 2009
  20. Krusty

    Ben Guest

    I actually have no problem with that.
     
    Ben, Jun 4, 2009
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