I've got the horn.......

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Mark, Oct 15, 2006.

  1. Mark

    Mark Guest

    Actually it's a Siebel Nautilus...........139dB. Thats loud!

    I always thought the horns on the stock Blackbird were crap. Ive tried the
    "snail" type Fiamms but they were crap. This thing is the dogs.

    For £23 (Halfords) I'd recommend it as an essential filtering accessory!

    Mark
     
    Mark, Oct 15, 2006
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  2. Measured about a foot away from it. It's only really a 118 or so dBa if
    measured about a metre away.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 15, 2006
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  3. Mark

    deadmail Guest

    fx: faints.

    Bloody hell, a dB unit used correctly for once.
     
    deadmail, Oct 15, 2006
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  4. Mark

    Mark Guest

    Wouldn't it be the "bell" if used absolutely correctly?

    Mark
     
    Mark, Oct 15, 2006
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  5. Mark

    Donegal Paul Guest

    These air horns?
     
    Donegal Paul, Oct 15, 2006
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  6. Mark

    deadmail Guest

    I've no issue with someone using the 'deci' part (I think I'm missing a
    joke here) it's just that people constantly refer to so many dB... which
    given that dB are a ratio is utterly meaningless. Of course, normally
    one can guess the units but it's not really the point; being a miserable
    old git *is* the point.
     
    deadmail, Oct 15, 2006
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  7. Mark

    Mark Guest

    Well they certainly sound like air horns but there are no tubes. The air is
    drawn in through an inlet hole and the compressors are built into the body
    of the unit. There is no lag between button and noise.

    Mark
     
    Mark, Oct 15, 2006
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  8. Mark

    Donegal Paul Guest


    I only ask as I remember a set i had on a car once from Halfrauds and though
    loud, eventually the pipe twixt compressor and trumpet used to come loose
    and a few times the compressor would pop it off, and even then there were
    times it'd keep running even when the hand came back off the horn.

    I'd love a louder horn on the lammy (anyone thats ever heard one knows it's
    little better than a ducks fart) though i suspect that the electrical draw
    would pretty much kill all my lights :-(
     
    Donegal Paul, Oct 15, 2006
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  9. Mark

    Tosspot Guest

    I must be the only saddo that agrees with you. dBs must have a
    reference or they are meaningless. 'Below 3dBs is bad', you talking
    watts, milliwatts, kilowatts, or zardwarks?
     
    Tosspot, Oct 15, 2006
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  10. Mark

    Eiron Guest

    There already is a reference for SPL. 0dB is the threshold of hearing for a
    typical youngster who has never listened to Motorhead, or 20uPa.
    So when someone refers to a noise level of 120dB, you know what they mean,
    apart from whether they are using A or C weighting.
     
    Eiron, Oct 15, 2006
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  11. Mark

    deadmail Guest

    They could be referring to audio power delivered into a speaker; i.e.
    dBm.

    You're probably correct that there are few alternatives, however it is
    simply bad practise to drop the unit and just imply it.
     
    deadmail, Oct 15, 2006
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  12. Mark

    deadmail Guest

    SPL isn't my area. The A may not be a unit as such but it references a
    specific 'level' of sound; the threshold of hearing (however that will
    somewhere be described by a suitable unit; whatever is relevant).

    If you use the "A" it's clear that SPL is being discussed, if you don't
    then dBm could have been under discussion (for example).
     
    deadmail, Oct 16, 2006
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  13. Mark

    deadmail Guest

    I'm tired so I'll just quote from the wikipedia page:

    "The unit dB (SPL) is often abbreviated to just "dB", which gives some
    the erroneous notion that a dB is an absolute unit by itself"

    Which more elegantly states my point than I had; a dB in isolation is a
    measure of nothing, it's a ratio.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_pressure
     
    deadmail, Oct 16, 2006
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  14. Mark

    M J Carley Guest

    In acoustics, dB refers to a reference SPL of 20 micro Pascal in air
    which is the nominal threshold of human hearing (most of us can't get
    down that far, in some places, there are people who can get to -10dB).
    The `A' refers to a weighting scheme which adjusts the contribution at
    different frequencies to make the level more like what the human ear
    perceives. It's most sensitive around 1000Hz so the contribution there
    is boosted a bit and other frequency bands have their level
    dropped. `C' weighting does something similar but weights the bands
    differently.
     
    M J Carley, Oct 17, 2006
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  15. Mark

    deadmail Guest

    What *was* actually measured would be a signal power. What was actually
    expressed would be a ratio relative to the reference signal power. This
    could be correctly expressed as dB (SPL)[1], or incorrectly expressed as
    dB.

    Regarding "A", you're right, it's not the reference unit. It does imply
    we're discussing SPL though... so gives a clue but I'll happily accept
    it's not a correct 'unit' of measure.

    [1] Apparently, from memory, from Wikipedia.
     
    deadmail, Oct 17, 2006
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