It's sulking

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by Lady Nina, Dec 11, 2007.

  1. Lady Nina

    Lady Nina Guest

    Benly will not start. It sounds as though it wants to start it just
    isn't catching. I've given it a squirt of easy start and turned it
    over still no joy.

    What next? How long shall I keep truning it over while for whilst
    balancing the not flattening the battery thing?
     
    Lady Nina, Dec 11, 2007
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  2. It's got a kickstarter, hasn't it? Use that. If that fails, try bumping
    it.

    In winter, I wouldn't trust the 6v electric starter on a Benly to turn
    over a pancake, much less an engine.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 11, 2007
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  3. Lady Nina

    Steve Parry Guest

    In
    Juggling a Benly ... cool :)

    It's probably flooded with petrol now. Take the plugs out and dry them out.

    Leave them out for a while to let the combustion chambers dry out too.

    Then put the plugs back in and try again.

    --
    Steve Parry
    K1200GT SE & F650
    '87 Yamaha FS1 & Sukida SK90PY
    and a VW Passat SE Estate for comfort
    www.gwynfryn.co.uk
     
    Steve Parry, Dec 11, 2007
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  4. Check the spark.
    Check the spark.

    Put the battery on charge while you have dinner and then check the
    spark.

    If it won't fire on EZStart then you, for whatever reason, don't have
    the right sort of spark.
     
    steve auvache, Dec 11, 2007
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  5. Lady Nina

    Lady Nina Guest

    Kick start is a possiibility but I want a vaguely reliable electrical
    system before the elephant.
    heh.
     
    Lady Nina, Dec 11, 2007
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  6. Lady Nina

    Lady Nina Guest

    That involves taking more bits off and looking at the spark plugs
    doesn't it?
    Battery is fully charged, it was on trickle charge before I attempted
    to start it.
    New spark plugs then. Bugger. Too busy to fettle.
     
    Lady Nina, Dec 11, 2007
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  7. Only the plug cap, if you have a spare plug.
    It may not start first time and you have pounded it already.
    Not yet. Flooding has been suggested, perfectly reasonable and
    sometimes can be cured by putting the battery on charge while you have
    dinner.
     
    steve auvache, Dec 11, 2007
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  8. You won't get it with a 6v Benly. Even in a British winter, with a new
    battery, it struggles. The kickstart always lights the fires, though.

    Well, actually, yes,the 6v starter *is* reliable. You can rely on it not
    to start the bike in cold weather.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 11, 2007
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  9. No. Both plugs are accessible without having to remove anything.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 11, 2007
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  10. convert it to 8V.

    wonder if you can do that on a Benly? It workwed on the CB100N, on which
    the operating voltage is determined by the battery.

    Mind, if you carelessly put a 25W headlamp in it, not a 36W one, it blew it
    in about 2 hours of use.

    36W ones used to last about a month.
     
    Austin Shackles, Dec 11, 2007
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  11. Mind, I've never found easy-start to be any use on petrol engines. diesels,
    yes. Although it's bad for them.
     
    Austin Shackles, Dec 11, 2007
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  12. Lady Nina

    Lady Nina Guest

    <gets out handbook>

    Oh right. It's too cold to go back outside now and I've still work to
    do, this is my ukrm tea break.
     
    Lady Nina, Dec 11, 2007
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  13. FFS. It's a Benly. The original indestructible bike. It takes a nuclear
    detonation to stop one running. Just use the effing kickstarter.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 11, 2007
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  14. Lady Nina

    Hog Guest

    This might be the most ridiculous thing I ever read on UKRMC
     
    Hog, Dec 11, 2007
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  15. Lady Nina

    platypus Guest

    Used to work on my old Mini.
     
    platypus, Dec 11, 2007
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  16. Lady Nina

    Eiron Guest

    Yes. You want a Desmo paraffin sump heater like your grandfather
    put under the engine on frosty nights as he couldn't be bothered
    with antifreeze.
     
    Eiron, Dec 11, 2007
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  17. Heating plugs works - I've used it several times on various bikes. But,
    fopr the umpteenth time, the problem here is not that the bike is
    knackered. It's just that it has a crap electric starter system, and the
    kickstarter is the solution. Only Nina doesn't seem to have tried to use
    it.

    I've owned half a dozen 6v CD200s and they *all* do that, sir.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 12, 2007
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  18. We had those when we lived in Sweden, when I was a nipper. Mind you, in
    Sweden you needed them.

    ISTR that nowadays Scandinavian cars have electrically heated engine
    blocks. You can sort of plug them into standing power points to prevent
    the lumps from freezing solid.

    Can anyone confirm?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 12, 2007
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  19. Lady Nina

    Adrian Guest

    The Older Gentleman ( (The Older Gentleman))
    gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
    Yup.

    Cousins-in-law on the edge of Stockholm have exactly that setup. A socket
    just under the front bumper, a 240v socket-onna-stick by their parking
    spaces, and a male-to-male extension lead in the boot.

    -10degC, 6" of snow overnight - the windows are clear and the interior
    toasty by the time you've got your seatbelt on.

    You see the socket-onna-stick everywhere. Many outdoor carparks -
    including offices - have 'em.
     
    Adrian, Dec 12, 2007
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  20. bloody dangerous, those. I made one (temporary) with 3-pin plugs on, and it
    managed to bite me several times, by having live plugs in unexpected manner.
     
    Austin Shackles, Dec 12, 2007
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