It's all for our own safety, dear. And it's fairer.

JackH wrote

What is unreasonable, the cost or the principle?

 

This is true.

 

**** it, I'll elaborate... in terms of cost... well, this 'cuntry', is
driven by transport - they may well end up making concessions to truck
drivers in terms of fuel duty soon, but physical haulage aside, business
generally needs people to run it.

And people need to get to work, one way or another.

If people can't afford to realistically get to work, then they have to be
paid more in order to allow a business to still function, especially if you
happen to be using persons of a rather specialised nature, who can't be
replaced with a monkey that lives on your premises doorstep.

Net result is, prices will rise for us *ALL*, to cover the extra cost of a
business being able to function, unless of course you're proposing we all
work from home, and become even more lazy and a burden on the health
service, than we already are.

That, or we see a nice recession because businesses can no longer afford to
operate.

In terms of the alternatives for those who still have to travel to work,
have you tried using the London Underground at peak times of late?

I can't say I have on a regular basis, for a fair while, but when I last
did, it was fucking awful in places; oversubscribed to say the least, and
not a very pleasant experience - getting a Northbound Northern Line train
from London Bridge was a mission that involved staff having to herd us plebs
onto to trains in stages, as it was that oversubscribed, the alternative was
a mass scrum which would have still left the platform full, as the train set
off...

But at least those in London have the luxury of a half decent integrated
public transport system, unlike most of the rest of the country, at least on
a local area scale.

And then there is the principal... do you really want something in your
vehicle that lets the system know exactly where you are, at any one time?

As in, no need for plod to stake you out with a speed trap any more - the
GPS has worked out your average speeds anyway. That, coupled with the
constant lowering of the speed limit on roads that don't necessarily need
it, as has been the trend here in Kent in the last few months, and as was
the case in Surrey the last time I spent any reasonable time there, doesn't
look that good for us all, especially those who actually enjoy having the
relative freedom to take our chances on spotting plod before they spot us,
at the moment, when having a decent hoon.

People go on about how mobile phones are pretty good at the positioning of
us all too... the main difference as things stand however, is that you don't
legally have to provide the details of who happens to be in possession of
your mobile at any one time, whereas the system is all set up now to stick
your nuts in a vice for any crimes allegedly committed in a vehicle, even if
it wasn't you in the driving seat, unless you give evidence to the contrary,
as in the name of whoever had the motor at the time.

--
JackH

CBR1000 - Micra 1.3 (K11)

BOTAFOT #110 D.Bot (University Of Speed) - BOTAFOF #29 - GHPOTHUF #29

 

And of course the point I should have made before... the other principal
that freedom of the roads shouldn't just be reserved for the rich.

Merely being loaded doesn't mean the purpose of your journey is any more
justified than that of a pauper.

--
JackH

CBR1000 - Micra 1.3 (K11)

BOTAFOT #110 D.Bot (University Of Speed) - BOTAFOF #29 - GHPOTHUF #29

 

You & me both. Something more pokey to give the bikes some extra zip.

 

Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations?

 

Timo Geusch scribbled:

Small 12V battery, connect to supply, ditto with GPS aerial, move black
box to corner of garage, drive where you want for **** all.

 

Rope scribbled:

Whats the amount of traffic got to do with anything if we're going to
be charged by the mile?

If they move tax from petrol to distance it'll work out *cheaper* in
heavy traffic, because all modes of transport get shit MPG sitting in
traffic jams, and that shit MPG will cost you 50% less, and the
distance charge won't increase, cause you're not moving.

 

frag says...

......until the sneaky bastards with ANPR cameras get you on film 200
miles away.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, frag

Be caught by newly appointed Highway Patrol, made to kneel at side of
road, and get neck-shot "Pour encourager les autres".

It's for your own good, and the sake of the environment.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
and Ducati Race Engineer.

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"

 

sweller scribbled:

Another fuel blockade. Lasting a few months. The only way to make the
fuckers realise they can't just keep on increasing all the taxes all
the time.

Start stocking up on red diesel now

 

I thought it was platypus who had bills ...

.... waddles off

 

Elephant grass seems to be the flavour of the month

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, frag

Ah but they can, they're an elected government, see?

And if any **** wants to blockade a fuel depot, I'm all in favour of a
very simple solution.

You just turn up with the vehicle inspectors and climb all over the
first vehicle in line. Then you nick the owner / operator for
*everything* that's wrong. Experience suggests there will be plenty to
find.

Then you do the same to number two. And number three.

When you turn to number four, it's not there anymore.

Simple.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
and Ducati Race Engineer.

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"

 

Yes, the bike will run *lovely* on that.

--
JackH

CBR1000 - Micra 1.3 (K11)

BOTAFOT #110 D.Bot (University Of Speed) - BOTAFOF #29 - GHPOTHUF #29

 

Lady Nina scribbled:

Easily. My brain can think about hypothetical situations, and how you
spell it, but they don't really exist, ergo can't be "in" the world.

 

Lozzo scribbled:

But with the GPS systems all the traf pol would be made to enforce dog
licenses and the traf cams torn down. They'd come to rely on the black
boxes completely, decide that since I wasn't ever going anywhere they
could convert my petrol ration vouchers to Dominos Pizza ones and I'd
have to build my own methane farm to convert the pizzas into natural
gas to power the car...

 

Wicked Uncle Nigel scribbled:

Is that a French euphanism for blow job?

Only if I didn't swallow.

 

frag scribbled:

Before I read the reply calling me a TC, I've actually read wot the URL
posted to and summarily slapped my own head, so there's no need, please?

 

Wicked Uncle Nigel scribbled:

I didn't bloody elect the bunch of wankers.

I think we should divide the cuntry up into left wankers, right
wankers, and other wankers.

get beaten up by masked, very angry pissed off truckers.

Just *don't* think it wouldn't happen, I know what that lot are capable
of having worked with loads of em for a couple of years and seen lots
of fun.