Italian Job

I made the mistake of wasting some of my life watching it last night -
what a complete pile of poo. Why is it that in these days of CGI &
effect budgets that are bigger than most 3rd world countries' GDP,
Hollywood still can't just record the sound of the motorbike they're
filming, & instead bung some random vroom vroom sounds over the top
from a completely different bike?

It wasn't *quite* as bad as the 2-stroke XR with 17 gears in Terminator
2, or the memorable 595 with the morphing tyres in MI2, but how hard
can it be to find some v-twin sounds to dub over Ducati footage rather
than some screaming multi?

 

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<news flash>
The general public don't care
</news flash>

In other computers generally beep in films, especially when they're
"thinking," mine only does that when the keyboard buffer overflows. A large
segment of the population have day-to-day dealings with computers and they
can't get that right. I think the engine noise of a motorcycle is the least
of their problems.

 

There's a whole 'industry' sprung about around errors of continuity and so
forth on films. I first came across them, through this..

http://www.moviemistakes.com/film1312

 

Sod the general public & the horse they rode in on - *I* care!

I can kinda see the point of adding sound to things that are normally
quiet - sometimes - but the bike thing is more like seeing a dog on
screen with a meowing cat dubbed over the top.

I guess you're right though - it's the whole 'dramatic license' thing.
Anything remotely technical in films can probably be ripped to pieces
by experts in that field.

 

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I think that's the point. The same goes for the discussion about the depth
of the "Massive Machines" episode on motorcycles.

 

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But differing amounts of knowledge.

 

It wasn't CGI'd in this case, which is why I don't understand why they
didn't just record it 'live'. Maybe the rattling clutch drowned
everything out...

 

Not a lot of people know that.
I must get round to viewing the original, particularly the
Minis in the sewer scene. Filmed in Coventry and some of my old
mates saw it happening.

 

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But to someone who doesn't know/care/GAF about motorcycles, dubbing the
noise of any motorcycle would do.

For example, if I was to do a CGI containing a bird[1], and I wanted that
bird to tweet, I wouldn't go out of my way to make sure that the tweet was
of the correct type for the bird, I'd just choose one that sounded
appropriate. Not knowing much about ornithology and not specificially
catering for a bird-watching audience, I doubt it would be a problem for
most people.

[1] The flying sort

 

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If your only reference is a set of images, I doubt it would make any noise
other than a rustle, if suitably provoked and printed onto the correct
media.

 

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/Then/, and only /then/, would it sound like a Ducati 998 at ~7k RPM, on a
sunny morning in June. But, I hasten to add, it would sound like a black
Ducati and not the red one pictured.

 

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Uncomfortable though.

 

If you want to learn more about ornithology, try
http://www.nice-tits.org/

 

Depends how well you grease it.

 

Krusty composed the following;:

But how good a film is, isn't necessarily down to how 'good' it actually
is, is it? I mean The Italian Job was more of a feeling than anything
else, and it is only fiction ...

 

Wouldn't some of them fly for 53 feet first though?

 

Only the African ones.

 

But the original was thoroughly entertaining AND 'good' - the new one
is neither imo.

 

What I've been noticing is the prevelance of really bad cuts do a
different angle. You'll have a woman in agnuish, cut to a side shot and
she's got a straight face, instantly. The other night we watched Alfie
(The new one) and there's a scene where a woman's top is on and off her
shoulder depending on camera angle.

The problem is, the more you notice these things, the more you notice
them iyswim.


--
John

SV650
Black it is
and naked

 

It doesn't sound like the public perception of a motorbike. In the
States the publi cperception is probably of a Harley so it'd be dubbed
to sound like that. Over here, an in-line 4.

Nothing to do with accuracy, all to do with the director attempting to
give people what they _imagine_ to be a real situation.