It Runs!

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by Nick Wilson, Aug 27, 2007.

  1. Nick Wilson

    Nick Wilson Guest

    The CB 750 sprang in to life this avo. Thanks to all who offered advice.

    I took the carbs off and cleaned them again. I'm not sure this had much
    effect.

    The CB750 has a vacuum operated fuel valve in series with the manual
    fuel tap. It only allows fuel through when the engine is running. If you
    can't start the engine owing to a lack of fuel - you're stuffed.

    OK, that wasn't the main problem but it sure didn't help. Hmm. Thinking
    about it, the vacuum device stopped a whole tank of fuel from
    evaporating out of the float chambers... So, perhaps a double edged sword.

    Slight leak from the sump plug. Tightened it slightly - felt ominous.
    I'll be thoroughly F'd O if it's stripped.

    So I'll stick it all back together tomorrow night, get an MOT and it'll
    be the eighties all over again.

    Cheers,

    Nick
     
    Nick Wilson, Aug 27, 2007
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  2. That's what the Prime position is for, though.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Aug 28, 2007
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  3. Nick Wilson

    Nick Wilson Guest

    Yeah. I've heard of bike with a "prime" position but mine has "res",
    "off" and "on".

    The vacuum valve is physically separate from the manual tap and it has
    no controls of its own.

    But there is clearly something I'm missing - unless cranking it is
    supposed to create enough vacuum to fill the float chambers??

    Cheers,

    Nick
     
    Nick Wilson, Aug 28, 2007
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    TOG Guest

    Then it's an ordinary gravity tap.
    No, that's not how it works. The float chambers will only fill if fuel
    from them is being sucked into the engine. It's like a lavatory
    cistern: the float does exactly the same job as a ballcock.
     
    TOG, Aug 28, 2007
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    Mark Olson Guest

    Same setup as my 1981 CB900C. Not one of Mr. Honda's finest designs.
    If the throttle plates are fully closed and your battery is strong, you
    will *eventually* pull enough vacuum to open that valve, but it's quite
    a marginal thing. Somewhat hard on the starter though, so if you have
    any mechanical sympathy at all, pull off the vacuum line to the tap and
    suck on it by mouth (least amount of faffing about), or use a Mityvac
    pump. You could also pull the fuel lines off the input and output of
    the vacuum valve and connect them together.
     
    Mark Olson, Aug 28, 2007
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  6. Nick Wilson

    TOG Guest

    Ah, I misread that. So there's a manual tap connected through a vacuum
    tap. How bizarre is that?
     
    TOG, Aug 28, 2007
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  7. if it was mine I'd remove the vacuum one.
     
    Austin Shackles, Aug 28, 2007
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  8. Nick Wilson

    Nick Wilson Guest

    Very tempting. But I'm too lazy to turn the manual one off when I leave
    the bike for ten years. :->

    Cheers

    Nick
     
    Nick Wilson, Aug 28, 2007
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  9. Nick Wilson

    Nick Wilson Guest

    On this bike a leaky float valve results in a pool of fuel on the floor
    as it runs out of the overflow pipe. I guess if the overflow was blocked
    it might find its way into the cylinder.

    I think the vacuum valve saved my bacon while the bike was sitting. I
    prevented the whole tank of fuel from evaporating through the carbs.

    Cheers,

    Nick
     
    Nick Wilson, Aug 29, 2007
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