It really was 40 years ago...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Champ, Jul 20, 2009.

  1. Champ

    M J Carley Guest

    The solar constant is the mean power falling on the earth from the
    sun. It's about 1.4kW/m^2.
     
    M J Carley, Jul 22, 2009
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  2. Champ

    M J Carley Guest

    It was a bit more than forty years.
    Actually, Concorde was a bit pointless and really a rather silly
    aircraft from an engineering point of view.
    We shouldn't. We can't.
    There are lots of things we could be doing. I think the next big one
    that will really impress me will be this:

    http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/front/d...l?siteSect=105&sid=7118024&cKey=1159613846000
     
    M J Carley, Jul 22, 2009
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  3. Champ

    davethedave Guest

    So how many hamsters in a wheel would we need to come up with the
    equivalent of the solar constant. The hamster variable if you will, or
    would we consider gerbils to be more energy efficient?
     
    davethedave, Jul 22, 2009
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    Ace Guest

    You're always doing this, aren't you?
     
    Ace, Jul 22, 2009
  5. Champ

    Ace Guest

    Ace, Jul 22, 2009
  6. Oh ye of little faith in the stupidity of man.

    You want photographs and an affidavit signed by Stu the publican.
    Or are you going to tell everyone I believe everything I am told at the
    pub.
    Parochial! Scheesh!

    Shepway Council offices, not a million miles away from the pub which is
    The Rose and Crown.
    They are in the phone book give him a call.
    Yes apparently. To qualify this they only turn up when it rains hard as
    do the builders to looking for the leaks.
    F**K knows.
    Then the builders don't turn up either.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Jul 22, 2009
  7. Champ

    Eiron Guest

    Other planets are OK. Uncle Sam could put a man on Mars in ten years if he wanted to,
    if there were any commies who needed a demonstration of superior technology.
     
    Eiron, Jul 22, 2009
  8. I still don't understand how they see the leaks from outside, unless the
    entire pub is under water and there is air bubbling out.[/QUOTE]

    This point had me asking questions.

    Stu said it's all down to the age of the pub and the roof construction.
    The repair is down to Punch Tavern the pub group that own it.
    The only way their man said it could be done was from the outside.

    We now need a surveyor to tell us why, because I don't know why.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Jul 22, 2009
  9. Champ

    M J Carley Guest

    So why did no airline buy it other than those that had to?
    Thermodynamics trumps everything.
    Vanloads of Paddies and Pavels on their way to build the solar
    collectors in the Sahara.
     
    M J Carley, Jul 22, 2009
  10. Champ

    M J Carley Guest

    If a hamster can generate half a Watt [1], you would need 2800
    hamsters per square meter. If a wheel is about 300mm diameter and 50mm
    across, you can fit about 60 hamsters per square meter, so you would
    to stack them up about 40-50 deep to get the same power per square
    meter. No allowance has been made for the gearboxes.

    [1] http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19325862.300
     
    M J Carley, Jul 22, 2009
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    That's the thing, isn't it? There just aren't any proper, serious
    justifications for spending billions on doing big, interesting stuff
    any more.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jul 22, 2009
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    I though tthe whole point of digging in was against harder radiation
    than mere UV & IR; insulation isn't the only issue.

    Feel free to tell me I've been whooshed.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jul 22, 2009
  13. Champ

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Lack of avaiable routes for one: no-one wanted sonic booms over their
    cities, so the Atlantic was really the only major route available. I
    dunno if it could ever have been made cheap enough for package holiday
    operators, too.

    If you really want to travel fast around the globe, you need to get
    out of that pesky atmosphere IMO. Either go ballistic or take the
    Tube.

    Shouldn't? Good grief!
     
    Pip Luscher, Jul 22, 2009
  14. Champ

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Presumably only the energy that hits the Earth's atmosphere. How much
    actually hits the surface?
     
    Pip Luscher, Jul 22, 2009
  15. Champ

    Lozzo Guest

    Just tell the White House there's a Taliban training ground there,
    they'll be invading it within days.
     
    Lozzo, Jul 22, 2009
  16. On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:12:58 +0200, Pip Luscher

    [Mars habitats]
    Yes. The problem with Mars is that it does not have a magnetic
    field, and thus no Van Allen belts, and it does not have any appreciable
    atmosphere either. Which means that hard radiation and charged particles
    from solar flares will make any potential colonists who are not
    dug pretty much dead.

    Thermal insulation is just an added bonus.

    Leslie
     
    Leszek Karlik, Jul 22, 2009
  17. Champ

    M J Carley Guest

    Five times the fuel cost per passenger of a 747 on a transatlantic
    flight. Useless to package holiday operators because the routes aren't
    long enough to make it worthwhile. Expensive to buy and maintain.
    If we can't, we shouldn't.
     
    M J Carley, Jul 22, 2009
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    davethedave Guest

    Damn! References. That makes it a bit difficult to argue. However they
    state quite clearly that no two people agreed on the figures but 1/2 a
    watt per hamster seems like a reasonable figure.

    We would make a loss of energy on the gear box thus increasing the
    required number of hamsters from an impractical number to a really
    impractical number.

    Damn! Hamsters are out then!
     
    davethedave, Jul 22, 2009
  19. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, M J Carley
    What fucking sort of engineer are you?

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

    I have already made the greatest contribution to the fight against climate
    change that I can make: I have decided not to breed. Now quit bugging me and
    go and talk to the Catholics.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jul 22, 2009

  20. In my old place I used a pre heat of 40 gallons and a main heat tank of
    80 gallons and would have hot water on a *bright* cloudy day. Water from
    the well was at a constant 10 deg C. It warmed up a bit in the internal
    holding tank.

    I was thinking of using a long parabolic reflector in the roof area with
    a movable motorised piped receiver element so it would always be in the
    focus point. Use the output heat to drive a sterling engine for
    electrical power.
    But I never got around to it.

    From the web site I put together to sell it.
    http://www.whittinghamsite.fsnet.co.uk//house/details.htm

    Excuse the crude HTML I wrote it 'knife and fork' fashion. No clever
    programs available then.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Jul 22, 2009
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