Is this a motorbike or a powered bicycle ?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by DozynSleepy, Oct 31, 2008.

  1. DozynSleepy

    DozynSleepy Guest

    Hi Everyone

    My place of work will be moving closer to home such that it would be
    hardly worth while powering up the CBR. The idea of cycling to work
    sounds okay in principle, but given my current state of fitness, to
    avoid a heart attack powered assistance really is a must ;-)

    I could always go for a twist and go scoot but came across this which is
    just so, well, American, that I'm finding it hard to resist.

    http://revopower.com/the_wheel-specifications.html

    http://revopower.com/the_wheel-design.html
    (Adobe flash player required).

    Appears to be a 25cc two stroke in the front wheel of a pedal cycle.

    Wonder if it can be used in the UK ?
     
    DozynSleepy, Oct 31, 2008
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    Hog Guest

    Working? well I never :eek:)

    In the UK that needs to be registered and insured. Buy an electric bicycle
    under 500W power and you will be fine.
     
    Hog, Oct 31, 2008
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  3. DozynSleepy

    Adrian Guest

    It's internal combustion powered, so it's a motorcycle. Helmet, MOT,
    registration, licence, insurance all needed.

    It's like the 50s all over again - it's the bastard offsprog of a Winged
    Wheel and a VeloSlowlex.
     
    Adrian, Oct 31, 2008
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  4. DozynSleepy

    DozynSleepy Guest

    If said place of play I might have to take a pay cut ;)
    Aw, I'd miss out on all that hydrocarbon goodness. Besides, I'd want at
    least a 600W, preferably a 1000W motor.
     
    DozynSleepy, Oct 31, 2008
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    Krusty Guest

    <idly musing>

    Is a trailer considered to be a vehicle in its own right? If not, I
    wonder what the law would make of a normal push bike that just happened
    to have a small powered single-wheel trailer behind it?

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    Krusty, Oct 31, 2008
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  6. DozynSleepy

    Adrian Guest

    They'd probably do you for attempted suicide.
     
    Adrian, Oct 31, 2008
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  7. Afaik, cyclemotors are lumped in with 50cc (and under) mopeds, so look
    that up.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 31, 2008
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  8. DozynSleepy

    Adrian Guest

    I didn't even know rotorvators had a reverse gear.
     
    Adrian, Oct 31, 2008
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  9. DozynSleepy

    DozynSleepy Guest

    Maximum power 200W !!!!!
    3.2 miles each way, not very hilly. Currently overweight with a BMI of
    27.5 [1]. I already have a pretty good mountain bike which is rarely
    dragged out these days. I'm going to stop answering these questions now
    because I might be forced to just get on the damned "pushbike already"
    and we all know that's not very entertaining.

    [1] This may be relevant, then again it may not.
     
    DozynSleepy, Oct 31, 2008
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  10. DozynSleepy

    Ben Guest

    Stick slick tyres on the mtb. 3.2 miles really is nothing, and fwiw
    my BMI is higher than yours at 29.5 and I manage 100km per week on a
    pushbike fine.

    That commute will take you about 15-20 minutes without putting any
    effort in or breaking a sweat.

    Mind you, all this does is show how much bullshit BMI is.
     
    Ben, Oct 31, 2008
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    Tosspot Guest

    How the **** does the throttle work?
     
    Tosspot, Oct 31, 2008
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  12. No.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 31, 2008
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    Lozzo Guest

    I once got nicked for "towing a trailer not being a broken down
    motorcycle". I contested this prosecution on the grounds that my mate
    who owned it, and who was sitting on it as I was towing, had just been
    convicted for not having an MOT on it at the time I was towing. My
    argument was "You've just convicted my friend for not having an MOT, at
    which point it was a motorcycle, yet now you're trying to prosecute me
    for towing a trailer because it hasn't got an engine so is no longer a
    motorcycle. Is this thing classed as a motorcycle or a trailer, because
    it has to be one or the other?".

    Cunting fucking bastard magistrate decided it was a trailer, I got the
    conviction and my mate's was dismissed - should have kept my mouth
    shut. On the plus side, I only got one endorsement and a 30 quid fine
    that he paid.

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    Ford Maverick 2.7 litre 4x4 Turbonutterbastard with VTOL.
    and a shit load more 2-wheeled junk in the garage
    I believe in free speech, but I still have to pay my phone bill
     
    Lozzo, Oct 31, 2008
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  14. Don't see why not, else all those cyclomotor owners would be in trouble.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 31, 2008
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  15. They're riding illegally, unless they're on a genuine vintage cyclomotor
    like a Velosolex or Winged Wheel or whatnot.

    Think Construction & Use.

    There was some outfit that tried to flog bolt-on powered wheels for
    bicycles years ago - they even took a stand at a bike show - until they
    did the homework they should have done earlier.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 31, 2008
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  16. Ok, non retro-active for the real oldies.

    For the new ones; brakes, lights, steering, horn, tyres, etc. All
    covered easily - what in particular? I think an SVA process would deal
    with it anyway.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 31, 2008
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  17. SVA might *if* you can sort out all the lighting requirements
    (indicators, etc).

    As this thing doesn't appear to have much (if any) generating system,
    you'd have to do that on a total loss system with a battery.

    Lights have to be a certain height from the ground, etc etc.....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 31, 2008
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  18. What about this?

    http://www.firebox.com/product/2166/Ego-Electric-Street-Scoota
     
    mike. buckley, Nov 1, 2008
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  19. Street legal, but you still have to do CBT and the rest of it.

    The law's slightly different for electrically assisted bicycles: you
    need to be aged 14, and (I think) have insurance, but apart from that
    there are no licence requirements.

    Electrically assisted bicycles have (I think, from memory) a max speed
    of 14mph and don't need licence plates. Electric scooters with a 30mph
    top whack are governed by the same rules as mopeds. Again, I think. I'm
    99% sure they have to have a number plate.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 1, 2008
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  20. True, but as the OP mentioned the option of a twist and go, this could
    be a cheap alternative. When (if in the current market) we move to
    Nottingham I'll need some kind transport to get to the train station
    which will only be a few miles away. Scoota seems a very cheap option,
    and also very convenient, no fuel stop - brilliant.

    Of course it could all have been built by some kid in China, and fall
    apart 2 days after delivery, but I think the general principal of an
    electric scooter is sound, and I'm surprised one of the big
    manufacturers hasn't picked it up.
     
    mike. buckley, Nov 1, 2008
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