Is it too late to buy gold?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Higgins@work, Sep 15, 2008.

  1. Higgins@work

    Beav Guest

    And this is going to result in there being no craftsmen in a generation or
    two.

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    Beav, Sep 15, 2008
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    geoff Guest

    Ah - comfort goods when you've just had the 911 repossessed
     
    geoff, Sep 16, 2008
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    zymurgy Guest

    Breweries are usually a good investment at this time too.

    At the height of the early nineties negative equity debacle, business
    was /booming/.

    P.
     
    zymurgy, Sep 16, 2008
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    snip>
    There are still a lot of people out there who think that because
    someone chose to leave school and be trained in manual skills rather
    than go on to university that they're not worth even half as much
    money when it comes to the hourly rate.

    How much would you pay for top end legal advise and how much would you
    pay someone to mend your boiler? How much would you pay for an hour
    with your accountant and how much per hour would you pay someone like
    me to help make sure the turbines spin up again at your local power
    station?
    It'll be about how much the end user wants to pay for his prototype
    controlling how much your cousin can pay his welders. Welders (good
    ones) can get a grand a day at a power station in the summer and your
    cousin won't be costing his labour out at much over £40/hour.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Sep 16, 2008
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    darsy Guest

    depends on who the shares are off. Our annual shareplan offer is soon
    - I think I'll probably risk it.
    well, there are certainly going to be more shit-storms - no way has
    everything bottomed out yet.
     
    darsy, Sep 16, 2008
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    Jeweller Guest

    Heh, I've done some work for a family that devised
    "under-water pyrotechnics".

    Torpedoes!

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    Jeweller, Sep 16, 2008
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    M J Carley Guest

    There are people who would turn their nose up at a solicitor charging
    less than X hundred per hour but who object to a plumber looking for
    an hourly rate over 50 (which is not his pay but his total cost). If
    the solicitor gets it wrong you're only metaphorically in the shit.
     
    M J Carley, Sep 16, 2008
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    Krusty Guest

    A good solicitor will have spent many years training, & be able to save
    or gain you a shitload of money. Domestic plumbing otoh is a piece of
    piss, & little more than manual labour. If you can drill a hole in a
    wall/joist, & read, you can fit a central heating system from scratch
    (apart from the electrical/gas side).

    Repairing boilers is obviously a step up, but most plumbers either
    don't do repairs, or only tackle them while on the phone to a
    specialist.

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    Krusty, Sep 16, 2008
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    Beav Guest

    All very interesting and all very useful at 10 past 4 in the morning when
    your boiler shits the bed. try getting a solicitor out at that time.

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    Beav, Sep 16, 2008
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    Krusty Guest

    I wouldn't try, but then again I wouldn't get a plumber either. I'd
    just switch the water/gas/electric off & go back to sleep.

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    Krusty, Sep 16, 2008
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  11. They'd be happy to come out. It would just cost you.. more. Much more.

    After all - copshops are 24-hour.

    Phil.
     
    Phil Launchbury, Sep 16, 2008
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    Beav Guest

    It's your stop cock that's the problem.


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    Beav, Sep 16, 2008
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    Lozzo Guest

    It's easy when you're banged up in a police cell, there's always a
    brief kicking his heels around the station somewhere.

    DAMHIK
     
    Lozzo, Sep 16, 2008
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    Krusty Guest

    Christ, talk about moving the goalposts. I still wouldn't call a
    plumber out, I'd just pinch the pipe shut, cut it & fit a stop-end.

    There will of course be times when some people need to call a plumber
    out in the middle of the night, & yes you'd expect to pay a fair whack.
    But that still doesn't make them worth 50 quid an hour during a normal
    working day.

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    Krusty, Sep 16, 2008
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    The trouble is that the powers that be don't want to eat into their
    profits by paying for skilled engineers so they end up with a high
    percentage of donkeys and the work takes longer. Hang on, that means
    they're not generating power so they're not making money. There's a
    shame.
    I'm not tempted by it because it's an absolute dog of a job (1) and
    it's paid on work completed within spec. Make one tiny little **** up
    and you don't get paid until it's been rectified and if you're working
    for cunts they can charge you for extra work involved. You've got to
    be good to get the big bucks.

    (1) Heat, carcinogenic fumes, filthy conditions under a turbine or
    above a boiler, noise and many more small discomforts. The fumes
    aren't always carcinogenic but some are and who's to say that what's
    considered safe today won't be tomorrows asbestos?
     
    Andy Bonwick, Sep 16, 2008
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    It does if you can't fix it yourself.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Sep 16, 2008
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Heh, I work on the fuckers that fire them.

    Hunter killer subs!

    Beat that bastard...
     
    Andy Bonwick, Sep 16, 2008
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    zymurgy Guest

    When I was still working I heard one of the big American banks was
    going under, hadn't realised it was going to be Lehmans.

    You're right. This particular shitstorm hasn't abated yet.

    P.
     
    zymurgy, Sep 16, 2008
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    zymurgy Guest

    Clenched buttocks.

    HTH

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Sep 16, 2008
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    muddy cat Guest

    I so don't miss this shit.
     
    muddy cat, Sep 16, 2008
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