IRAQI ELECTIONS

Discussion in 'Texas Bikers' started by ßjay jøhñ§øñ, Nov 21, 2004.

  1. ßjay jøhñ§øñ

    Dixon Ranch Guest

    Hello,

    I am glad to hear from someone who has been there in Iraq.

    I hope that you will post some more information soon about your stay there.
    It is always better to hear from a person that has been there V.S. the
    heavily make upped national news media news reporters.

    As for Brian, well, don't let his attutide and etc, discourage you from
    posting here about anything including Iraq.

    Harvey
     
    Dixon Ranch, Nov 30, 2004
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  2. ßjay jøhñ§øñ

    Wakko Guest


    Fair's fair. One could point out the state of that country 20 years ago and
    say that Iraq *had* all of that at the time. If you look at that timeframe
    then 3 of the 4 have been achieved. Are you taking bets on whether the last
    item will come into play sometime during the next 20 years?

    I'm not going to defend this administrations actions to date, though.
    I would have done things much differently.
     
    Wakko, Nov 30, 2004
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  3. ßjay jøhñ§øñ

    Brian Walker Guest

    Why don't you go back to waiting for your welfare checks and let the
    grown-ups talk?

    His "18 months" wasn't recently...and it wasn't too much of "Iraq"
    involved in his stay. I'd say everyone knows that, but now with your
    post here, I have to change it to "almost everyone know it".
     
    Brian Walker, Nov 30, 2004
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  4. ßjay jøhñ§øñ

    Brian Walker Guest

    Hmm. To put this into perspective of what I believe you're saying,
    that's like the IRS using the tax code of today and going back to
    people's earnings 20 years ago to collect...or worse, taking figures
    and planning for what you'll earn 20 years from now and collecting
    that amount now.
    Funny, everyone keeps looking for the reasons we went to Iraq. As
    several have said "would you have us pull out now?". That's their
    reasoning. It doesn't matter at this point "why"...only that we're
    there and have to do something. This administration lied to get us
    into this, and now they back up and say "that was faulty
    intelligence...so sue us...want us to pull out?".

    I don't blame Bush as much as I do the "Rupert Murdochs" and "Jerry
    Falwells". Those are the one's who got this crap that has turned out
    to be lies in people's heads about all these different reasons why we
    needed to invade a sovergn country, kill and/or capture it's lawful
    leaders and install our own government.
     
    Brian Walker, Nov 30, 2004
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  5. ßjay jøhñ§øñ

    Wakko Guest


    What I am saying, is that 20 years ago Iraq had WMD, a burgeoning
    weapons program and a totalitarian regime. They don't have those now.
    I see this as a "good thing".

    Just giving credit where credit is due.
     
    Wakko, Dec 1, 2004
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  6. FWIW, 20 years ago Hussein was Reagan's boy fighting the Iranian Shiites
    who had just overthrown the Shah (our previous CIA installed Iranian
    puppet in lieu of the nascent Iranian democracy). A foreign policy
    based upon "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" makes for some real odd
    bedfellows. A secular, socialist Iraq had the most modern outlook (after
    Iran fell to the fundamentalists) particularly for the women who wore
    modern clothes and could drive, shop etc more so than any other of those
    so called nations including our "good friends" Saudi Arabia where women
    can't drive and must be veiled in public. Sure, Hussein was a jerk, but
    for a while he was our jerk so it was ok.

    Another dictator outlives his usefulness to the USA and people here
    wonder why we get such a bad rap overseas. We've supported by turn the
    Shah of Iran, the Saudi monarchy, the Taliban and Hussein as it served
    our purposes, while simultaneously giving lip service to democracy and
    freedom. Is it any wonder the populace over there doesn't trust us.
    Hell, I don't trust us. What our gummint says and what it actually does
    are often two very different things. We still don't have Bin Laden.
    That pisses me off. "We support a strong dollar". Yeh, right.....

    "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"
    -The WHO-
     
    another viewer, Dec 1, 2004
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  7. TO GET back to the subject, of whether the Iraqis will be able to vote,
    without being shot down, ran down, or blown up, is gonna be a NEWS ITEM
    soon. Bush is sending a few 82nd tough troops in there to, help guard
    the situation I guess.
    I sincerely hope they can vote, I just wonder if it can possilbly
    happen. It seems a ''way'' too early for such a hopeful event. I wonder
    where they'll vote,how they'll vote, who will vote, and so 4th.

    <>haveAgoodDay-Bjay<>
     
    ßjay jøhñ§øñ, Dec 2, 2004
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