IRAQI ELECTIONS

I can just see them, dodging ''car bombs''
hostile crowds, US Troops escorting, and a lotta ''sand dust'' from
helicopters, and I dont know what all........trying to VOTE.
<>AND, what kind of choices do the poor old Iraiqi souls have.
<>Are there 2 candidates, like we have.
<>I havent noticed, any political signs out here and there, for the
folks to see, to help them know whos running. (on TV)
<> Just how many do they think will risk their lives, to stand in line,
at some
bombed out, broken down, non-powered place of voting.........
<>To me, it just sound a little rediculous.
<> I can see it in about another 6 months to a year. BUt, by God, those
main cities are dangerous.
<>Oh yeah, those folks will have to be instructed...one-by-one...to
simply make their mark on some kind of ''arabic type''
voting-document, won't they???

<>haveAgoodDay-Bjay<>

 

Yep.. and we will liberate those people and bring democracy to them, if we
have to kill every damn one of them.. Regards Bjay..

Your friend in Irving
Bill Walker

 

<>Yep.. and we will liberate those people and bring democracy to them,
if we have to kill every damn one of them..   Regards Bjay..
Your friend in Irving
Bill Walker
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
SUCH A GOOD RESPONSE, eh bill walker. reminds me of the old cowboy
shows, when the Marshall, would tell the
bad guy, ''O yeah, you'll get a fair trial, then we'll hang ya!''<>
regardless to you<>
GOL

<>haveAgoodDay-Bjay<>

 

OMG!!!

You're cleaning up that mess I just made when I spewed Diet Coke(tm)
all over my monitor!!!

Yeah, I remember that "War of Independence". I don't remember any
other country coming over here and killing our leaders and killing our
citizens to bring us that "independence" and "freedom"...not to
mention a "chance to vote".

That's too funny!!! Just the thought of you comparing our fight for
independence and freedom to the Mess-O'-Potamia(tm) we have in Iraq...

Did you get that "comparison" from FNC? I'll lay odds that you did!

 

ZZZZZZZ<>~~Considering what saddam put his own people through...I think
they are doing better now than before the US & Britain plus all the
other Countries sent troops in to remove saddam. The so called
"insurgents" and the criminal gangs kidnapping folks, murdering them,
that will take time, effort and unfortunately lives.
The normal Iraqi citizen has never been permitted to vote in a real
election, should the troops who have fought so hard be pulled out? And
no, we don't have to kill them all just to get them a chance to vote.
Remember our own history...Our War of Independence...don't you think
everyone has the right to the same freedoms so many Americans take for
granted.ZZZZ
<><>>>james wilson<<>>>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
James, Bush declared war on Iraq, because of the threat to America. You
know, the story about the WMDs. NOT, because Soddam was mean to his
subjects (people). The Common American, could care less what Saddom
did to his own. And, the common American, you know, the normal, hard
working, patriotic, church going ones of us, Could Care Less, about
those hateful sandy muslin, folks having their Independence. Why didnt
they do something about it, Like Our foreFathers did. Our foreFathers,
with a rag-tag army and whooped ass, and won our Independence, you
remember, it was in 1776. (around july 4th) (smile)

<>haveAgoodDay-Bjay<>

 

James, Bush declared war on Iraq, because of the threat to America. You

Speak for yourself Bjay.

I think that things are turning around in Iraq. Things will get better for
the Iraqis.

It may very well be that the WMDs will have been found to have been moved
from Iraq to Syria and who knows where else they have been sent. That area
has long history of smuggling.

Why didnt

Old saying about walking a mile in the other man's shoes or boots if you
prefer. The people in 1776 were lucky that the Brits did not have the type
and kind of political police state control like SoDamnedInsane had. Very
tight and severe with common use of killing those who failed to submit.

Some did try to do something about it after Desert Storm in the 1990s. There
was an uprising in Iraq against SoDamnedInsane. SoDamnedInsane filled
thousands of graves with their bones. He also killed many in the Northern
Part of Iraq with poison gas. The man also provided money for the PLO
suicide bombers.

Do not forget the fact that SoDamnedInsane fought a long war against Iran.
Plenty of poison gas used there. Do not forget the Kuwait invansion that
started the Desert Storm against SoDamnedInsane. The man wanted control of
the region.

His sons were not Angels. Both were cold blooded killers. One or both were
rapists as well.

Harvey

 

HO-LY!!! TURN OFF FNC FOR A WHILE AND GET SOME REAL NEWS!!!!

There were NO wmds...AT ALL!!! It was a hoax to gain support for an
invasion of a sovergn nation. Inspectors were all throughout the
country and didn't find anything. What weapons they did find, was
either destroyed or marked for being allowed under UN
sanctions...which the United States signed off on.

Any WMDs which would've been in Iraqs control would've been useless
because it only has a shelf life UNDER 12 YEARS.

My guess is that it was "smuggled and moved" to the next country we
will be invading...get the picture?

That's called NOT OUR PROBLEM!

It seemed like he was an "okay kind of feller" when Reagan and George
Bush were supporting him with weapons and money. Remember those times,
the times when he was using WMDs against his own people? Gee, he's a
stand up kind of feller when he's doing things like that...then he's
an evil/brutal dictator when he's petting kids around and attending
weddings.

I remember that...while George Bush stood on a golf course saying it
wasn't our problem and we wouldn't get involved in another country's
problems.

He didn't once use "poison gas" during that time. He used rockets from
helicopters which we allowed him to use...but there was no poison gas
involved. It became so bad that our soldiers and relief workers were
having a problem getting supplies to the people in the northern
territory...and Bush kept saying we wouldn't get involved in another
country's issues. Finally, after pleading with him by the commanders
of the area and afraid of fallout during the election, Bush gave in
and allowed our soldiers to enforce the more strict no-fly zone and
Hussein wasn't allowed to fly his helicopters in that region.

It's very important to get the events correct...during the cease fire
of Desert Storm, no-fly zones were made. Iraq requested to fly their
helicopters in those areas for their own security and Schwartkoff(sp?)
agreed under the direction of Powell. Allowing those helicopters to
fly is what brought down the uprisings in both the north and
south...along with our lack of intervention.

No money has ever been traced back to Hussein which was giving to the
"suicide bombers"...PLO or otherwise.

Yes. Here's a term for you..."Iran-Contra". Remember? When Reagan got
on TV and lied. When North lied...and the conviction overturned by a
Reagan appointed judge. Do not forget Poindexter as well. Should I go
on?

I guess so...the poison gas which we provided to him...which Rumsfeld
was glad to dine with him and tell him how much we "liked him".

I'm not forgetting it. In fact, I'm well aware of it. That invasion
was "sanctioned" by the United States. Bush's statements invited that
invasion.

No he did not! He was pissed off because Kuwait over-produced their
oil against the treaty which all the countries over there
signed....and undercut Iraq's supply of oil. Since Kuwait was part of
Iraq at one time, Hussein figured he would put a stop to it. He
appealed to the United States for help in correcting Kuwait and when
Bush said he would not interfere, Hussein invaded Kuwait to stop the
oil over-production. Bush then sent Baker and Powell to Saudi Arabia
to request our soldiers be placed there "to protect them". Our
soldiers being on Saudi soil is what pissed Osama bin Laden off and
began retaliation toward us.

Oh my! You're just all up in FNC, aren't you? It's like you just
dropped on this planet 6 weeks ago and been watching nothing but FNC
ever since.

I have to wonder if there's a detox for folks like you?

 

As for it not being "Our Business", well, it is now.

Seems like I remember Pres. Carter always making speeches about "Human
Rights". Well, I suppose that for the first time in many, many years, the
large majority of the Iraqis now have "Human Rights" and freedom.

You know lile like what you have had all these years.

Since you are so unhappy with the current govt policy concerning Iraq, I
suppose that you could consider moving to Canada.

 

Hey you arrogant self serving son of a bitch.. How dare you invite anyone
to leave the country where he is born and raised... Seeing as how, you are
so content and satisfied with the corruption that is controlling our
government, you got what you voted for.. STFU and be happy.. Brian Walker
was born and raised in Texas.. He served his country in the US Army.. You
nor any other freeloading asshole has the right to even suggest that he
leave Texas or the United States..

Bill Walker
Irving, Tx.

 

The suggestion and message was for him, not you.

It was only a suggestion since he seems to be so upset about the whole thing
all the time.

I do have the right to give him that suggestion. He has the right of course
to decline the suggestion or invite as you call it.

From what reports that I have seen on various websites, some people are
seriously thinking about moving to Canada.

Now waiting his reply, not yours Bill.

 

maybe a 2-up..?

....louie

 

You bet.. and when this one leaves MY country, I will let you both know, so
you can be sure to see ME off.. Same goes for you, asshole..

 

Ah, that's okay...'welfare queens(tm)' hate it when they're faced with
factual information that goes against everything they've ever known
about...at least what they've seen/heard on the FNC.

The only thing that he has to say is "if you don't like it, go to
Canada"? Who said I didn't like it here? I just don't like some
'welfare queen(tm)' spewing idiotic crap that he heard from the FNC to
promote a travesty like what's going on in Iraq, Ukraine, Iran and so
on.

But, everyone knows that Harvey has been on welfare his whole life and
never did anything to help others...even though he's been on welfare
and demanded others help him. He just hates it when someone points
that out to him.

 

">> > Since you are so unhappy with the current govt policy concerning Iraq,
I

Read it again, Brian, I was referring to the current govt policy concerning
Iraq.

I am sure that you like here in Texas. Never said that you didn't like here.

 

ZZZZZ-Dixon says:~~~~~~It was only a suggestion since he seems to be so
upset about the whole thing all the time.
I do have the right to give him that suggestion. He has the right of
course to decline the suggestion or invite as you call it.
From what reports that I have seen on various websites, some people are
seriously thinking about moving to Canada.
<><><><><><><><><><><><><<>><><
when one votes, then one has the right to be mucho upset, if the
opposition wins.
<>But, dont ever tell me or any American that voted, to leave the USA,
because they ''didn't'' like the results. I wil continue to knock the
Iraqi un-necessary War. And you, Mr. Dixon, will probably continue to
say it is a just war.....but don't act ignorant, and tell good folks
''leave'' if ya dont like our government. NOW, if a
''complainer'' , didnt Vote,, by God...I'll tell him, Son, if ya dont
like our Government, go to Peru.....go south to Mexico, go to
canada.....hell...go to Cuba.....shit, there's lots of countries' that
need the likes of you (maybe)
heehee... shiiiiiiiiiitttttttttt.....(GOL)
grin out loud.........jb.

<>haveAgoodDay-Bjay<>

 

I don't like the current policy concerning Iraq. Neither do most of
the politicians who are on my television. Neither do many of the
families who lost loved ones over there. Neither do many of the
soldiers who've lost limbs over there. Neither do many of the
citizens.

Unlike your little point of view, the Iraq war is still unpopular.
Just because Bush won re-election, doesn't mean people are content
with what's happening over there. That's not the reason he won.

So, telling someone some little arrogant snippet like you did only
shows your lack of intelligence and respect to others. I had it right
when I called you a 'welfare queen(tm)'. You can't come up with
anything else, so you resort to the same ignorant crap republicans
have been using for the past 25 years. If you haven't noticed, it
doesn't work with me. I'll argue it on a more level field and not let
some ignorant republican cower me down. It's been said that
republicans can't win a debate on issues, so they have to resort to
making the person out to be bad. It doesn't work with me. And if you
haven't turned on the television lately, it's not working for many on
there as well.

 

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 01:05:10 GMT, "James Wilson" <James

Yep, that's Brian walker, he's an asshole. Just like you, top poster.

Many of them were, top poster.

Yeah, and now the AMERICANS are beating, killing and raping them.

It'd be the best thing for us, but the OIL rules.

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Hey James Wilson, I don't have to be any nicer to you than you are to
me.

Regardless of how little someone might think of it (read:you), those
"insurgents" *ARE* Iraqi citizens. Whether they were law abiding or
not is not even part of the discussion or debate. There's nothing
"lawful" about bombing a person's home...and the United States has
done plenty of bombing the "wrong house". There's nothing "lawful"
about killing Iraqi citizens...and the United States has done plenty
of that.

Even in this country, excessive searches and seizures can result in a
person using deadly force to defend themselves. A good comparison
would be the Branch Davidians in Waco. Even the best of the best
lawyers and judges said they were perfectly justified in shooting and
killing those ATF officers.

\In*sur"gent:A person who rises in revolt against civil authority or
an established government

Since there's no established government in Iraq because our government
went over there and bombed the crap out of the country and killed the
lawful government leaders...and since there's no civil authority
because we went into their country bombing and invading...I'd have to
say those people in Iraq are doing what normal people would do that
are having their homes blown up and government over-thrown with other
government leaders put in their place.

Your comparison (I'd say "idiotic comparison", but I'm not going to
get down on your sleezy level) was our "War of Independence" and
what's going on in Iraq. If that was taken out of context, then you
need to learn to write. It plainly says:
"Remember our own history...Our War of Independence...don't you think
everyone has the right to the same freedoms so many Americans take for
granted."

If you have a problem with the way you write, I hear there are plenty
of community colleges which might teach you some skills...who knows,
you might even get the taxpayers to pick up the tab by saying it's
"job related".

Now, who's the "fucking asshole"? I don't have to use profanity or
personal insults toward you...I'm above that level and refuse to let
someone bring me down to that level. I was just playing around in the
other posting, but I'm not in this one.

 

I doubt it. But whatever.

Your reading is as good as your writing. What did I say?

When were they used as a threat to us? But I don't care to debate the
issue with you.

"Freedom"? I don't care if those people are free or not. We can't have
the world molded like us.

I saw on television a commercial plainly stating that the only
"Americans" are one's who worship God and turn to God for daily
needs...then it went to the televangilist show it was preceeding.

No, our government is making that choice.

If they're so concerned about their "War of Independence", then let
them start fighting someone else...instead of us.

Oh, so anyone who said different than your opinion is "liberal"? I'll
just have you know that the jury that returned not guilty verdicts
were made up of people in a republican county. The judge? He was
republican too.

It's a known fact that when someone starts shooting at you to serve a
warrant, you're justified to shoot back. That's in the Constitution.
Oh, I guess that was just a bunch of "liberals" who made that up, huh?

This isn't even touching on the fact that the ATF broke federal
regulations separating military and civilian laws by using the
military during that "invasion". And we won't even go into the use of
military helicopters to fire at the people. We won't go into the fact
that they used snipers to shoot at anyone trying to leave the building
while the tanks rolled in and tore holes in the building to spray a
lethal dose of CS gases. We won't go into the fact that the tank
actually ripped two of the people apart who were in a room when the
tank came in, pinning them in the tracks and pulling half of their
torso apart.

But I guess all that is just "liberal" propaganda...even though most
democrats were the one's supporting the actions of the ATF...until the
facts came out.

And you can't seem to read what you wrote?

I doubt it.

 

Exactly. If the media or the current administration refers to those
"fighters" over in Iraq as what they are, it wouldn't be as popular
even among the loyal supporters of this action against Iraq.
"Insurgents" sounds much more evil and military than "Iraqi people in
the towns".

I'm sure they searched high and low for that term.

If you noticed, they've never referred to what we're fighting in Iraq
as what it is...the citizens of Iraq. It started out as "The Elite
Republican Guard" (very Star Wars'ish). Then while they were in the
middle of finding the new term to use, they were throwing out
"terrorists", "loyalists"...and even "al Queda".

I believe eventually the two would have to be reckoned together. Don't
you?