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Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Don & Cheryle Smith, Dec 11, 2007.

  1. I have my bike listed for sale on one of the bike selling sites.

    I was very happy to get my first response within only a couple of days.
    These are the emails that followed.

    Enquiry ID: 111828
    Date: Sun Dec 09 10:21:30 EST 2007

    Name: alex
    Address:
    Postcode: 3226
    Mobile Phone: +4187654391
    Home Phone:
    Work Phone:
    Email:
    Comments: Hello seller,
    i saw your item on carsales.com.au,and i will like you to get back to me
    if the item is still for sale..moreover i will like to know if the item is
    still available and the LAST PRICE you are willing to sell it.i will like
    you to get back to me soon.
    Alex

    I replied,

    Alex,

    Thanks for your inquiry about the Guzzi but at the moment I am considering
    trading it in. I will have made a decision by Friday and will let you know
    one way or the other if the bike is still available.

    The price is negotiable but would not go very far from $7000.

    Thanks for your interest and I will get back to you by the weekend (if you
    are still interested)

    Regards
    Don.


    then got this one,


    Hello Don,
    Thanks for the email.I am still interested and to let you
    know that I am willing to pay the $7000.I will like you to know that i am
    unable to make a call right now because of the area i am.Right now i'm out
    of town on a business trip to Lyn Oslo,though you don't have to worry about
    payment and pick up,I'll handle that.Pls consider it sold to me and pls
    don't entertain any other offers.This will be similar to a local pickup. As
    for payment,I will instruct my accountant to issue you a Cheque of $9,000 as
    i am not in the AU at the moment.Once you get the Cheque kindly cash it and
    then wire the excess funds to my shipper via western union after deducting
    your $7000 and an extra $100 i am offering you as dash for keeping it down
    for my shipper.Pls let me know if i can trust you in wiring the excess funds
    to my shipper the same day you cash the Cheque. Note: My shipper will be
    picking up some other Automobiles for me in the AU,including these i am
    buying from you,so this is why his shipping fee is that much. This way you
    will be free from shipping hastes and stress, as my shipper will come over
    to your place for collection once he receives the funds so if you are okay
    with this way of arrangement, pls mail me your full details such as your:

    1)Full Names (how it should appear on check)
    2)Postal address
    3)Phone number) .
    I will be awaiting these details so that my client can send you the
    payment.Hope to hear from you soon and have a nice day. Regards,
    Alex.

    Should I keep the whole $9000 and pretend the $7000 was a misprint ? LOL

    Don
     
    Don & Cheryle Smith, Dec 11, 2007
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    sstrik Guest

    Wait till you see what the bank fees are for dishonoured foreign
    checks.

    Mate had someone try this to him with his Patrol. Essentially they
    will try and get hold of the vehicle before the check clears (takes
    about 6 weeks).

    I suspect you have already worked that out though :)

    Regards

    Steve
     
    sstrik, Dec 11, 2007
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    Toosmoky Guest

    It's not the vehicle, They're not interested in that. it's the excess
    funds they're after. Cash.
     
    Toosmoky, Dec 11, 2007
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  4. It's a nigerian scam. Avoid avoid avoid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Fraser
     
    Fraser Johnston, Dec 11, 2007
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Not all scams are Nigerian Fraser. The Tampa was from somewhere else.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Dec 11, 2007
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  6. Bank the cheque. Wait, oh, about 2 weeks for it to be dishonoured. In
    the meantime give all of the details to the police, who are familiar
    with this scam. Sell the bike to the first genuine buyer. Don't send
    "Don" any money but do ask him for his bank account details so you can
    EFT - if he's stupid enough to reply the cops could trace him.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_fee_fraud#Fake_cheques_and_cheque_cashing_scams
     
    Andrew McKenna, Dec 11, 2007
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    Marty H Guest

    I heard on the radio the other day (so it must be true) that the Qld
    gov is the only state gov that has a reporting line on internet scams
    and something like $300,000 a month is being reported to them for the
    Nigerian scams alone, that is only what is be reported....

    mh
    (immigrating to Nigeria)
     
    Marty H, Dec 11, 2007
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    will_s Guest

    Nah, have some fun. Tell them you have been offered $8,200 and you
    regrettfully will have to take that up. Wait for the next offer of a cheque
    for $11,000 and agree and tell them you will send them the money. Let them
    think they have you and p[lay them along....tell them the money has been
    sent and you are delivering the bike the next day. Enjoy yourself :)
     
    will_s, Dec 11, 2007
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    Yeebers Guest

    And join up at '419eater.com'.. :)

    It's an entertaining pasttime.

     
    Yeebers, Dec 11, 2007
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    It's incredible but you see report after report of some "poor victim" who's
    lost $100,000 (of his Granny's money!) to these money-for-nothing scams.
    **** me; I reckon they should publish the Saps' names and addresses so we
    can ALL take advantage of them!! (1)
    How fucking stupid are you?!!?
    --
    Clem
    (1) Yes I'm aware this is a hypocritical contradiction of my "I resent
    people who prey on the general public's gullibility" stance but there's
    gullibility and there's GULLIBILITY!! (2)
    (2) Besides; they deserve it for being stupid AND greedy!
     
    Knobdoodle, Dec 11, 2007
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  11. And, at least in the USA, a lot of them are doctors and lawyers! Stupid,
    greedy, already rich and university educated. Fortunately a few were so
    stupid as to go to Nigeria and demand their money back - that thinned
    the ranks a bit!
     
    Andrew McKenna, Dec 11, 2007
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    Toosmoky Guest

    Gotta go with Clem on this one. I get ****-all spam but I still get at
    least three people a week wanting me to help them smuggle millions out
    of the country plus a few emails telling me I've won a national lottery
    in Scotland or Bermuda or Tanzania.

    Anyone who's silly enough to fall for that shit deserves to be fodder
    for the rest of us. We need to feed on their worthless carcasses to
    strengthen ourselves for the inevitable victory rut thus producing
    another healthy crop of more rational thinkers.
     
    Toosmoky, Dec 11, 2007
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    JL Guest

    The Tampa was Norwegian, but the scammers were Australian.

    JL
    (the key ringleader used to live about 100m from me...)
     
    JL, Dec 11, 2007
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    I didn't think I was allowed to use a name starting with Nor and also
    containing a 'g' and an 'e'.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Dec 12, 2007
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  15. Norgerian?
     
    intact.kneeslider, Dec 12, 2007
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    Choppa Guest

    Slam a scammer was being implemented when I left the ACCC
    They, along with the state govts, maintain
    http://www.scamwatch.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/693900 as well
    One can report it there. It's definately a money transfer-nigerian
    scam thingo.
     
    Choppa, Dec 12, 2007
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    Marty H Guest

    you mean the radio was wrong about only Qld?

    I have been scammed god damn it!!

    but seriously, please tell me you were Tel$tra's enemy #1 when you
    worked for the ACCC?
    I so miss Alan Fels.

    mh
     
    Marty H, Dec 12, 2007
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    That's the scam where people write about a bike that's just too good to be
    believable and then trick you into giving your money to a 'Guzzi dealer?
     
    Knobdoodle, Dec 12, 2007
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    f murtz Guest

    You will probably find that that it is fake but realistic travellers
    cheques and they are hoping that you send difference before you find out
    (they have been running this scam on ebay like for sale pages for a while)
     
    f murtz, Dec 13, 2007
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    bikerbetty Guest

    [applause] <evil grin>

    betty
     
    bikerbetty, Dec 13, 2007
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