Interesting Week

Yessir.. amongst other things that you are very wrong about.. With your
inability to read and comprehend, even simple comments, it is doubtful that
anyone can explain anything complex as the Texas Helmet Law to your
satisfaction.. Needless to say, I won't indulge your silliness and attempt
it..

 

You have to have liability insurance to ride. If over 21 then you can ride
without a helmet if you have taken that MSF class (~$150).

If you have NOT taken that MSF class then you can still ride without a
helmet but you need proof of 10k of health insurance. The experienced
riders course http://tinyurl.com/4tjlg is only $50 and IMHO is harder. Not
too many riders take that ER class and I suspect the basic class is much
more expensive because there is a demand for the basic class (ride w/o a
lid). I read in another thread where the military requires certification
for each motorcycle you own in order to ride on base. That is interesting,
wonder if they required off-road certification for 4WD SUV's?

 

Please do...I am curious about the texas helmet law. Seeing as I am down
there 3 or so times a year it would be good to know.

 

Meanwhile, I think Mark and I are members of the same category too. Riders.

 

Quirky WA state law.
A motorcyclist must have Liability Insurance.
A motorcyclist needs to carry no proof of insurance.

So basically when you get pulled over here, they ask for license and
Registration, if you hand them an insurance card too, they hand it back.
The law states for some odd reason you don't have to have proof with you,
but you must have a policy. The cops could care less whether or not you
carry a card if you're on a bike. Weird. You get stopped in a a car in
this state w/o insurance, the car is subject to impounding as the worst case
scenario.

 

Since you and Mark Johnson are birds of a feather, I'm sure he'd be
delighted to explain it to you .. My response to you is.. "Do your homework,
Welfare Rider.. you have nothing to worry about, long as you suit out with a
DOT approved helmet..."

 

Please define "welfare rider."

 

"Andrew"

SNIP

I think what Cage Monkey Sr. is trying to say but can't is.
"Don't be like Bill Walker" but I could be wrong...I really
wish people wouldn't reply to him...



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Nefarious Necrologist 42nd Degree
Some people ride, some just like to show off their butt
jewelry once in a while.
Dum vivimus, vivamus
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You don't really define why you wish nobody would to Bill's posts. If you
are wanting to avoid reading any more of his quoted text in reply, let me
recommend a modern newsgroup reader that has the ability to automatically
delete by keyword. "Bill Walker" and "friend in Irving"? I notice Bill
consistently uses that in his sig. Shouldn't be hard to figure out.

 

Just sick of the old frauds lies frankly...mostly I do
ignore him. Unless of course the stink is too great. For
instance his lies about me and others. You are correct in
one thing...I ought to use something else. I have agent but
it can't resolve my server...so great it doesn't work. Kind
of like some people I know.

If you'll excuse me we've 18-70mph winds and it's gone
from -24F to 41F in 24hours...and raining.
--
Nefarious Necrologist 42nd Degree
Some people ride, some just like to show off their butt
jewelry once in a while.
Dum vivimus, vivamus
<3 )3~ <3 )3~ <3 )~ <3 )~

 

So, Stevie...what you're saying is you're too stupid to know how to work a
newsreader like Agent?

But I'm sure you meant "Free Agent" instead...I wouldn't want you to get
into trouble for stealing a good newsreader like Agent.

 

And you rode all that time and were too stupid to know the law? No wonder
there's a file on you....which I have a copy of some of it on my desk!

Your "ignorance of the law" explains quite a bit of it!

 

Yes. Very much so. For starters, the amount you said for health coverage is
only $10k and not $100k.

The biggest misconception is who is allowed and who's not. You don't need
the DPS sticker which DPS begs you to get. It's $5 and does nothing. The
sticker is so narrow and fits over the license plate that the cop has to get
on his hands and knees to see it's even there.

By default, it's illegal to ride without a helmet. The law clearly states
that all riders must wear a helmet. There's an exception under certain
conditions. If a rider is over 21 years old, and either provides $10k of
health insurance OR has completed the MSF course. This was fine for a short
time until police started mis-using the law to stop riders who fell into the
exception. TMRA2 requested an opinion of the AG who was at the time John
Cornyn. His office gave the opinion that all riders are in non-compliance
until they prove otherwise. Technically by the opinion, a rider could be in
full compliance and still receive a ticket and made to go before a judge to
decide if compliance is met. The way laws work here, and mostly everywhere
that I know of, just because a law is on the books doesn't make it "the
law". In order for it to be set in groundwork, it has to be worked through
the courts. An AG opinion will work to set a law into motion, but if a court
rules different, then the law is invalid. If a court upholds the law, then
it's set in stone and that's "the law".

This is what TMRA2 is working to fix in this legislature. There's another
part of the law which TMRA2 is working to fix and that's the HIPAA(sp?) Act
which allows insurance companies to deny benefits to insurance policy
holders if they're injured in an accident which might be deemed "hazardous"
like motorcycling. So, the very insurance policy which allows us to ride
without a helmet might be denied benefits (they can't deny coverage because
that's illegal) to the injured motorcyclist if we ever need it.

It's a screwed up deal all the way around!

And if you think it's tough to explain this here, try doing it at a TMRA2
meeting full of people who believe they have the right to ride without a
helmet regardless...and they're saying "I can ride without a helmet because
I have that little card". It's not easy convincing people they're breaking
the law when they've been told they aren't....or if they're under the
illusion that they aren't.

 

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this is true. i also wear other gear instead of just street clothes
and take refresher riding courses periodically.

He used insurance as one of his ways to crawfish out of riding the
Waltz. The waltz required that a helmet be used and that more than the
bare minimum of coverage be carried (requiring at least 100/300/50).

But Little B knows this and is being intentionally obtuse in the hopes
that some weren't around at the time or have as short a memory of pops.

 

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WOW! My last 2 or 3 have been $75 and I complained when it went up
from the previous $25.

I get it. Your $150 was for the BRC which includes the bike rental.

I don't know total numbers, but I would suspect more take the BRC than
the ERC because it's done with range bikes and there are so many
people on the road that don't accept that education is a continuing
process (so they don't "need" additional training like ERC or track days).

 

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But how can we be if we have different ideologies and politics than
The Sheriff? Don't you realize that being "a rider" has nothing to do
with bikes and miles and skill and (fill in the blank)? It has to do
with being a Democrat (neutral, liberal, and other close associations
don't count) and attending political rallies and bending reality to
avoid the mental anguish it causes when it so frequently conflicts
with the fantasy built to hold off suicidal depression?

 

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Even weirder is if they pull you over and you're from out of state
(where no registration is required with the vehicle). In fact, some
states discourage this as it's presented as making theft easier (forge
up an updated owner name using the other info on the registration).
Yet, in spite of out-of-state tags, the LEO gets all belligerent and
insists that he "knows better" and that your home state DOES require
you to carry it. Eventually you realize there's no talking to the guy,
wait your 45 minutes along side the road while they run your plates,
the come back to tell you that you had a tail light out.

DUH!

 

Nope..problem for ya' there, sport.. Too many on tx.motorcycles saw that
little fairy tale develop and unfold.. You and your little round bottomed
friend were both pretty well turned out to pasture on tx.motorcycle
newsgroup during and after all that posturing.. Even given the benefit of
the doubt, that either of you can even ride a motorcycle.. intermediaries
have tried to arrange for you both to make some sort of showing.. hmmm..
Neither of you posing wannabes have or will, accept any part of exposure to
real bikers, in any setting..

All the posturing and posing as a serious biker, is as artificial as trying
to pass yourself off as a Mason.. There is only one way for you to resolve
all the doubts surrounding anything that you claim.. Put it to rest once and
for all.. or.. just STFU..

Bill Walker (self appointed Illustrious High Sheriff of Reeky)
Irving, Tx.

 

LMAO.. you strained a gut on that one.. huh Mark ?

 

Thanks for the insight Brian. I think I understand the law and the
loopholes now. Good luck in Austin.