Interesting NRMA article

100,000 motorcyclist registered in NSW but on average MAA receives only 100
claims each year compared to 10,000 claims for 2.7 million motorists ( to
the maths )

 

Seeing the average car would travel a lot further than the average
motorcycle each year, this particular statistic isn't _really_ in our
favour.

 

?
What assumptions are you making ?

 

What does this have to do with anything? Bad driving/riding cause accidents,
not the amount of kilometres you do. (Otherwise learners, who have done less
kilometres would crash less than experienced drivers/riders who have
travelled more). This is bad logic perputrated by insurance companies with
too many statisticians on the payroll.

 

Only 100k registered motorcyclists in NSW? You sure?
- sanbar

 

2003 motor vehicle census

NSW 100,049 Registered motorcycles 3,163,322 Registered cars
VIC 99,072 Registered motorcycles 2,822,384 Registered cars
QLD 83,790 Registered motorcycles 1,741,070 Registered cars
SA 28,454 Registered motorcycles 838,440 Registered cars
WA 47,066 Registered motorcycles 1,018,036 Registered cars
TAS 8,582 Registered motorcycles 242,867 Registered cars
NT 3,244 Registered motorcycles 68,275 Registered cars
ACT 7,014 Registered motorcycles 183,719 Registered cars

I can also give you k's travelled if you want.

Smiley

 

I am only quoting the NRMA article

 

The whole point of that particular part of the article
was the debate on 3rd party and the belief that we are not charged
at a fair rate

I was getting ready for work and just typed in quickly with errors
and all

 

ok, how many k's have I done

 

AVERAGE KILOMETRES TRAVELLED (b) ( '000) for 2002

New South Wales 6,300

Victoria 3,200

Queensland 6,000

South Australia 2,700

Western Australia 2,500

Tasmania 4,000

Northern Territory 5,700

Australian Capital Territory 5,700

 

What's MAA ?

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

 

Fucking oath it's relevant - if you pay for your insurance per annum, rather
than per km.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

 

Sorted by distance. Those Taswegians must do a lot of trips! Canberrans
do big distances, considering how small their territory is.

If you keep posting all this crap, most of aus.moto will killfile you.

Gary

--

"truth is never disposable in national political life"

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JOHNHOWARDLIES.COM has undergone another major revamp in response to your
feedback.

 

Motor Accidents Authority (?)

 

<blink>.... the average motorist travelled 6.3million km's in 2002 ?

Faaarrrk !

That's some serious touring !

JL
(and if the average motorist travelled 6300km in 2002 that's pretty piss
poor !)
--
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"So far Howard's luck has survived a great deal: his move to dismiss
broken election pledges by distinguishing between "core" and "non-core"
promises; his retrospectively time-limited "never ever" pledge on the
goods and services tax; his vagueness about when he committed Australia
to war against Iraq; his shifting standards for ministerial conduct; his
demonising of asylum seekers as child killers; his tendency to blame
"advice" rather than to openly accept responsibility when things go wrong."
Will Howard's luck survive another election ? Do Australians not care
that their PM is a liar ?
http://www.johnhowardlies.com/

 

I can understand how they can publish all of statistics about population and
income and age and stuff because all that data is collected in the census and
the ABS collect other raw data from government departments, private business
etc, but it beats the shit out of me know they know how many km anyone is
travelling.. noone has ever asked me. Any idea how they collect statistical
information on KM travelled.. other than just calculating it by applying some
arbitrary fuel economy formula to the number of litres of fuel sold?

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

 

Nev,

Every quarter the ABS do a survey of registered owners of bikes and cars
asking for their odometer readings at the start and finish of the quarter.
The number riders surveyed each quarter is very small and the results vary
quite significantly from survey to survey.

Safe ridning,

 

sorry nev I keep pressed the wrong button.

taken from ABS document no 9208.0

survey of motor vehicle use


4 For the 2002 SMVU, a sample of approximately 16,700 vehicles was selected
to report
on vehicle use over a three-month period within the reference year 1
November 2001 to
31 October 2002. Of these, 24% were passenger vehicles and motor cycles, 60%
were
freight vehicles, 11% were buses and 5% were other non-freight carrying
vehicles. The
sample size was chosen to give a suitable level of precision for estimates
of total distance
travelled and tonne-kilometres for each state/territory of registration by
type of vehicle
category.
5 The survey methodology is described as pre-advice, where owners of
vehicles
selected in the survey received early advice about their inclusion to
encourage record
keeping and minimise reliance on recall. These owners were asked to complete
two mail
questionnaires tailored to their vehicle type. The first, at the beginning
of each quarterly
survey period, asked for selected vehicle characteristics and the vehicle's
odometer
reading. Owners were also advised that they would receive a follow up
questionnaire at
the end of the quarter seeking details about the use of the vehicle over the
quarter and a
second odometer reading. Examples of the main items requested in the second
questionnaire were included with the first questionnaire.
6 When questionnaires were returned to the ABS they were checked for
completeness
and accuracy and, where possible, follow-up contact was made with owners to
resolve
reporting problems. Where contact with providers could not be made, missing
items on
incomplete questionnaires were filled by imputing average data from like
vehicles for
which data were obtained.
7 Where the selected vehicle owner had not owned the vehicle for the whole
quarterly
survey period, the details provided for the period of ownership were
adjusted to give a
three-month equivalent, except where the vehicle was deregistered, in which
case only
the use up to the date of deregistration was included.
8 In addition, adjustments were made in the estimation process to account
for the use
of new motor vehicles registered after the survey population was identified,
as well as
the re-registration of other vehicles during this time. More information
about these
adjustments is provided in Technical Note 1: Data Quality.

 

Hmmm... so at any given time the ABS data is calculated on the travel of
approx 30 riders representing 100,000 in NSW, about 30 representing 99,000 in
Vic, 3 representing 8,500 in Tas, 2 riders in the ACT and 1 in the NT. Sounds
convincing.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

 

In NSW they take your odometer reading when doing the roadworthy for rego
each year.