Interesting - Automatic Fines Unlawful? Or Web Bollocks?

Never heard of the bloke myself, nor the controversy around this:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/garbagegate/archive5/penalty2.htm

A brief web search comes up with the same article in most of the
papers.

Discuss...

 

Sounds too good to be true to me.....

 

Exactly my thoughts...

Where's Kiran when you need him?

 

Ex magistrate up the allotment was going on about this the other day.
Reckons its pukka.

 

"Our man in the potato patch said...."

 

Thing is, "Mr. de Crittenden refused to pay his fine until Sandwell
Council took him to court and secured a proper conviction." So you run
the risk that you will be convicted and end up with a bigger fine.

Now, if EVERYONE refused to pay then the system may well collapse, but
until then it's usually easier to just pay up.

My 2p

--
Nick Brooks

GN125 ('till test passed)
1960 SWB Landrover
1974 Mercedes Camper Van
1999 Klein Attitude
1997 Golf VR6
Combined vehicle age 90

 

It's even easier to find a proper parking space in a proper car park
and not get fined in the first place.

 

I've always maintain that if I get a speeding fine when I was actually
speeding then I'd just accept it unless I knew it was incorrect.

Same with parking tickets. When I used a car I just parked the bugger
anywhere I fancied for a whole two years, and in that time I only got
one parking ticket, which I paid right away which was for something
like £15 or £30. Two years parking for £30 is quite good value.

 

I bet you can imagine what he looks like just from my brief description.
Including the errol flynn moustache and clipboard.

 

Look pal, people like TOG and Champ didn't go to all the bother of getting
the Magna Carta signed just so you could throw your rights away.

 

Couldn't agree more. Have no sympathy [1] for people who get parking
tickets. Park somewhere legal you selfish fuckers, and especially don't
block me in at my local co-op because you'll "only be a minute". How do
you know how long the fucking queue is?

Rant over

[1] Obvious genuine emergencies excepted

--

 

Because magistrates are vindictive bastards?

--
Nick Brooks

GN125 ('till test passed)
1960 SWB Landrover
1974 Mercedes Camper Van
1999 Klein Attitude
1997 Golf VR6
Combined vehicle age 90

 

The Older Gentleman emerged from their own little world to say

Here's the story reported in the Independent in March 2005

http://motoring.independent.co.uk/features/article8269.ece

R de C seems to be a UKIP activist
http://www.ukipforum.co.uk/ukip-events.html

The **** is just after some headline grabbing publicity. I'm glad the
council has not risen to the bait.

 

This, however, is not the question in hand. The question is about
the legality of the "guilty without trial" notion that these kind of
fines have.

If the law needs amending, then do so, but don't presume that you
can go around inventing new laws to suit your own purpose.

 

Not the original question but in my limited experience threads go off
topic here faster then anywhere else. Remind me, was the OP OT?


--
Nick Brooks

GN125 ('till test passed)
1960 SWB Landrover
1974 Mercedes Camper Van
1999 Klein Attitude
1997 Golf VR6
Combined vehicle age 90

 

Because you automatically incur "Costs" which must be paid[1], so
effectively they are another fine.

[1] Even if you plead guilty on arrival at the Magistrates court in my case.
Fuckers.

 

NAHAY?

 

You can go right off people, you know.