Insurance when abroad - hired bike

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by GungaDan, Aug 24, 2007.

  1. GungaDan

    GungaDan Guest

    I'm hoping to make a last minute trip to Italy, hire bike, trundle
    around, come home. Unfortunately standard medical insurance doesn't
    cover this (not surprisingly) and I'm finding it difficult to find
    someone who will provide cover when not riding my own bike. Has
    anybody done this and, if so, what did you do? Or do you just assume
    you're not going to fall off?

    TIA
     
    GungaDan, Aug 24, 2007
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    wessie Guest

    loads of firms will cover you. Easiest to arrange is from
    http://www.direct-travel.co.uk/ as you can do it online. Full policy
    wording is there too. This is the key phrase on p37
    "you travelling on a motorcycle over 125cc, unless the rider holds a valid
    licence which lets them ride a motorcycle of more than 125cc;"

    In the High St, policies from Nationwide and the Post Office have simialr
    wording.

    Then there's Churchill, Carole Nash and a googlegroups search...


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    wessie, Aug 24, 2007
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  3. GungaDan

    wessie Guest

    Oh, BTW, I've made 2 trips to Italy this year. Bike hire shops do exist but
    are scarce. Like most elsewhere in the Med, scooter hire is available on
    most street corners. Unless you are planning on going up an Alp or two, a
    scooter is more practical anyway...

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    wessie, Aug 24, 2007
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  4. GungaDan

    GungaDan Guest

    Thanks Wessie. Appreciate it. I'll give them a go (direct-travel).
    I'm actually planning to hire a Guzzi Breva and am talking to CIMT
    about a last minute deal. It's expensive but will (hopefully) be more
    fun than a car. We'll be going up to Lake Como from Milan and staying
    there FOC then using it as a base to explore the area.

    Any tips or warnings since this will be my first Continental trip?
     
    GungaDan, Aug 24, 2007
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  5. GungaDan

    TOG Guest

    AFAIK, BUPA (who I'm with) has no restrictions. In any case, if you've
    got an E111 card, you'll be OK.
     
    TOG, Aug 24, 2007
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  6. GungaDan

    wessie Guest

    I had a hire car on my last 2 trips to Italy. I've ridden my own bike there
    several times too.

    As far as driving/riding is concerned: don't hesitate is the best advice.
    Take care on the Milan ring road. Speeds are much higher than the M25 and
    lane discipline is mental in comparison. In reality, there are very few
    accidents. Get your head around their mindset and you'll be fine. It all
    looks very chaotic but it works.

    Petrol is widely available even in rural areas. The pumps are often
    unmanned. The machines take cash so make sure you have small denomination
    notes as you won't get any change for that 50 Euro note. The machines have
    a card reader too. A few years ago they rejected UK cards with a magnetic
    strip. Chip/PIN cards work fine in shops but I don't know if the pumps have
    been brought up to the same spec.

    I don't know the Como area so can't offer advice about there. If you think
    you will make it as far east as Lake Garda then let me know, as I know
    parts of that area very well.

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    wessie, Aug 24, 2007
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  7. GungaDan

    wessie Guest

    Really? E111 does not exist any more. EHIC is what you want.

    However, holiday insurance does not only cover hospital bills. There are 2
    cases over on UKGSer where people had not read their insurance documents
    properly.

    Case1: bloke dies in a motorcycle accident. Wife presented with a huge bill
    to repatriate his remains.
    Case2: bloke 2 repaired in foreign hospital after a bike crash. Airlines
    refusing to carry him home on scheduled flights due to medical issues. Cost
    of medivac not covered by EHIC.

    As insurance is about £15 for a week or £65 for a year I think it is
    worthwhile for every trip.

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    "Wessie is a lovely man with many wonderful qualities" TM Blaney
     
    wessie, Aug 24, 2007
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  8. GungaDan

    GungaDan Guest

    As Wessie says it's the getting home bit which the EHIC doesn't cover
    you for. Insurance sorted now but I'm going to try really, really hard
    not to crash in any case!

    <fx: crash>
     
    GungaDan, Aug 24, 2007
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    platypus Guest

    Mate of mine dies running his VMax into the Armco in the middle of the M32.
    Family wants to repatriate the bin-bag full of gobbets and bone fragments
    back to Jockland. Considerable financial obstacles, charges for every
    authority through whose area the remains would pass tot up to about £7K.
    Remains finally interred in Bristol.
     
    platypus, Aug 24, 2007
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  10. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear
    Regardless of the distances, why the hell is an authority even allowed
    to levy a charge for transportation of remains through its area? What
    possible justification can there be?

    It's like insurance premium tax. No possible justification, just a
    random charge associated with something someone dreamt up as a
    chargeable "event".

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Aug 24, 2007
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  11. GungaDan

    platypus Guest

    Apparently seven different authorities to pass through, all wanting a grand
    to cover costs. Alan didn't give a ****, and would have been happy if we'd
    just slopped some petrol on the carcase and cremated him on the hard
    shoulder, but the family wanted to plant him back in Glasgow. This turned
    out not to be doable, thanks to the greedy fuckers who control these things.
     
    platypus, Aug 24, 2007
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  12. GungaDan

    Timo Geusch Guest

    You're not the only one.

    In fact, this law-abiding boxhead here would've been tempted to hire a
    Transit and indulge in a bit of corpse-smuggling.
     
    Timo Geusch, Aug 25, 2007
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  13. GungaDan

    GungaDan Guest

    Useful stuff ta.
    I doubt we'll be venturing that far east but there's always a chance.
    Are there any 'must-see' type places in that area?
     
    GungaDan, Aug 25, 2007
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  14. GungaDan

    wessie Guest

    The SE corner is a bit tacky: lots of campsites, man made beaches etc.
    Malcesine is lovely. There's a cable car that takes you to the top of a
    mountain, although there is a road up there too.

    The northern end of the lake is great too. Super restaurant in Torbole
    across the road from the harbour. Goethehaus IIRC - bike parking bays right
    outside.

    The western side of the lake has some superb roads that climb to some
    spectacular viewpoints.

    North of Lake Garda you get into the Dolomiti Alps proper. We found some
    super roads on a circuit from Riva-Molveno-Madonna di Campiglio-Riva. Some
    of the passes were around 2000m above sea level.

    We liked our base resort of Limone too. Very little modern development in
    the town itself. Most of the big hotels are on the outskirts. Watching the
    sun set behind Monte Baldo on the other lake shore whilst slurping far too
    much Prosecco was a highlight.

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    "Wessie is a lovely man with many wonderful qualities" TM Blaney
     
    wessie, Aug 25, 2007
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  15. The costs of doing what, though? I know the undertaking business is
    hugely full of greedy cunts nowadays, but this LA nonsense is taking the
    biscuit.

    As Timo says, once the body's been released to the rellies you could
    simply shove the coffin in a van - which is what would happen to it
    anyway.
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    river cleaned out in a day.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Aug 25, 2007
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