insurance/damage/re-sale question

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by darsy, Jul 13, 2010.

  1. darsy

    darsy Guest

    If you have a vehicle (in this case it's a car) and requires damage
    repair, paid for by the insurance company, but it's not been declared
    any sort of write-off...does this have any downstream issues in terms
    of having to declare it to future purchasers or anything? Anyother
    way of phrasing this, is will such authorized repairs show up on any
    sort of background check of the vehicle?

    I'm assuming not, but wanted to ask the FONT.

    Got my car back (after two months!) last weekend. It's not quite right
    though - looks fine, goes stops and handles as before, but there's a
    couple of "funny noises", which I'd appreciate any suggestions as to
    what they might be (it's an RX-8)

    1) on medium speed (40-60) right handers, there's a sort of "squeak
    squeak" from the nearside rear wheel direction &

    2) slightly more irritating, when braking hard(ish) from 20mph to rest
    there's an on/off rough grinding sound coming from near the driver's
    side front wheel - sort of sounds like a warped disk or caliper off
    true, but the brakes work fine at all speeds and don't appear to make
    this noise braking from faster (though that could be 'cos engine/road
    noise masks the unwanted noise, or that it could be at a higher
    frequency).

    any (reasonable) suggestions gratefully received; I'm taking it back
    to the repair shop at the weekend to get them to take a look, but I'd
    like to be 1/10th aware of what I might expect to here.
     
    darsy, Jul 13, 2010
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    Alan Crowder Guest


    Not usually, sometimes the INS Co give it a Cat D status but that
    usually means they take it away and dispose of it, if you still have it
    and the V5 has never left your side then it has no onward hassle.

    Alan
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    Alan Crowder, Jul 13, 2010
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  3. darsy

    darsy Guest

    that's what I though - never had to give the V5 to anyone, and the
    insco specifically told me they wouldn't write it off.
     
    darsy, Jul 13, 2010
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    central Guest

    Its the subtle difference between Cat D and buy back and 'take this money
    and repair it yourself'. If there was no buy back transaction (they'd
    have wanted the V5 for that, I'm sure) and just a cash payment then it
    should(1) be fine.

    1: Not that every claims muppet knows what they are doing - it maybe be
    worth checking they havent flagged it Cat D if they had no reason to.
     
    central, Jul 13, 2010
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    Ace Guest

    You are correct. I had the front end of an XJS rebuilt using some used
    parts, paid for by the Insco and coming in at much less than their
    estimate, and hence allowing it to be repaired rather than
    written-off, which they were otherwise going to do.

    As such, there's no place that the information could be recorded - of
    course the insco will have the data, but the detailed info won't be
    released to anyone else.
     
    Ace, Jul 13, 2010
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  6. darsy

    darsy Guest

    ta all - I'll just check with the insurers to be sure.

    They arranged for the car to be collected by the repair shop, they
    paid the repair shop the cost of the repairs minus my excess, and all
    I had to do was pay the repair shop the excess amount, and they
    delivered the car to my house.
     
    darsy, Jul 13, 2010
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    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Yes, if they ask the question.
    When trading a car in now, it's common to have to sign a form to say it's
    not been subject to significant accident damage in the past, and you can
    imagine what happens to the trade-in value at this point when you say yes.

    My first Octavia got rear ended and punted into the car in front when it was
    only just over a year old, and I claimed from the offending driver's
    insurance for a reduction in it's second hand value in addition to the usual
    stuff. It was 8% of the value at the time, so well worth doing.

    Annoyingly it also took an age to get the repairs done right - the first
    garage did a shoddy job twice and it went elsewhere to be rectified in the
    end. As it happens, when I traded it in, I didn't get asked about it's
    history which was nice. Odd really as it wasn't every quite right afterwards
    and there were a couple of tell-tale signs that you'd expect to have been
    spotted.
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Jul 13, 2010
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    But you're French and it's different once you cross the Channel.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jul 13, 2010
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    Lozzo Guest

    The only time we query anything like that is if an HPI check shows a
    vehicle has insurance history - that's when we recalculate its value
    and decide it's going to be broken for spares. We won't sell a
    previously written off[1] bike to a retail customer.

    If a bike has been properly repaired then it makes no difference to the
    retail value if it doesn't show up on an HPI check. It's our job to
    spot bad repairs when we're checking over prior to taking it in, and
    that's another time when we recalculate the price, but this time to
    take into account repairing it again to how it should be.

    [1] For whatever reason
     
    Lozzo, Jul 13, 2010
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    Gyp Guest

    But there's no need to offer the information if it's not asked for
    I've just checked the form I signed this evening and it's asked if the
    car's been involved in an accident resulting in a total loss claim and
    that's all.
    Annoyingly it also took an age to get the repairs done right - the first
    garage did a shoddy job three times. As it happens, when I traded it in,
    I didn't get asked about it's history which was nice. Odd really as it
    wasn't ever quite right afterwards and there were a couple of tell-tale
    signs that you'd expect to have been spotted.
     
    Gyp, Jul 13, 2010
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    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    I've had it on two out of three purchases.
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Jul 13, 2010
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    Beav Guest

    Nope. Only write-offs are recorded in the history.
    Body in the boot?
    It's almost impossible to diagnose a problem from a description. Your
    "squeak" maybe someone else's scream and sound travels in odd ways through a
    vehicle, so what sounds like it *must* be coming from the front right hand
    side could easily be really coming from the back left hand side.

    GAMI (the back to listen while you drive)
     
    Beav, Jul 14, 2010
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  13. darsy

    Beav Guest

    Nor me and we deal with this shit every day. I'm not going to say it never
    happens, but it's certainly not common and I've never seen any form to say a
    vehicle has been repaired.
     
    Beav, Jul 14, 2010
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    Simon Wilson Guest

    IME they don't need your V5 to record it as a cat D etc. Give it a
    couple of weeks then it's worth spending a couple of quid on eg
    mytextcheck to make sure it doesn't come up as recorded.
    As Beav says, pretty hard to tell, but sounds like rusty discs?
     
    Simon Wilson, Jul 14, 2010
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    In communiqué
    Suspension bush?
    Caliper heat shield ? I had that on the 6 after the wheel/kerb
    interface damage to the front suspension was repaired. TBF though that
    was more of a scrape-scrape whether braking or not. Not very obvious
    unless going slowly with the window open. They had it back and adjusted
    it.



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    Pete Fisher, Jul 14, 2010
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    CT Guest

    I concur.

    We've traded in two cars in the past 15 months and it wasn't asked on
    either occasion.
     
    CT, Jul 14, 2010
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