In need of a good service?

Went to start it, strong turning over, no catching. Jump up and down
in frustration, aim kick at swing am, try one last time, it catches.

Go and put air in tyres, think 'you'd better not mess me around
again', it starts no problem.

Just shy of 100 miles later, [1] pull into the Tescos just down the
road, come out, not even thinking about the previous issue and it
refuses to start again. Swear, attempt to bump start, get hot and
sweaty, give up, phone Aunty Carol.

Sitting on the bike having a fag get chatting to a bloke about bikes,
how he hasn't got one any more

'too many kids'

'that's an ideal reason to have one'

He decides that actually he really should get a bike again, I say
'I've obviously broken down just to convince you of this'. As he gets
in the car I try one more time, it starts. Phone Aunty Carol, cancel
recovery, come home.

So, why is it messing me about? New spark plugs required? If so surely
it wouldn't start with ease sometimes and not at others. Airlock has
been suggested, any other ideas?

[1] I headed north east rather than my usual west or south west, loads
of roads have lowered speed limits since I was last out that way, road
surface is awful once you get over the border into Notts and the
stomach lurches you get when you think you are about to slide sideways
on a very tight left hander are nowhere near as pleasant as the other
sorts of stomach lurches.

 

It needs the spiccy wand waving over it

--
Lozzo
Suzuki SV650S K5
Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
Suzuki GSXR750 L
Suzuki TS50X
Suzuki TS50X

 

I'll let others go though the fault finding flowchart with you.....

I had to visit Staffs LA in Hixon last week, by eck there are a shedload of
speed cameras up there !

Never seen so many in my life.

 

Madam is relaying the information as I type. There and back in a day
would be good as I have to go to Portsmouth on the Wednesday evening.

How long do shims take anyway?

 

3 hours ish by the time you've taken all the bodywork, radiator and
shite out of the way.


--
Lozzo
Suzuki SV650S K5
Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
Suzuki GSXR750 L
Suzuki TS50X
Suzuki TS50X

 

OK I'll leave early and aim to be with you by 10am.

 

Sounds like petrol to me - taking a long time to turnover suggests
that the petrol isn't getting in quick enough. As it's turning over
and it does start (eventually) it rules out things like electrics,
battery, sparks, etc.

I don't think it's an airlock in the breather as it runs fine once
it starts. I would check your petrol filter for blockages, replacing
it if it hasn't been done in a long time. You may also have some
water in the tank from condensation build up over the winter? Remove
tank, drain, let it air for a bit while you change the petrol filter,
give it a wipe round and then refill with petrol.

Also check obvious things like kinked petrol lines from the tank
as it is sometimes easy to trap them when they go back on, but again
it would suggest it not running at all/ dying when on full throttle
rather than not starting.

 

That's cool. I can get oil and filter up the road, they keep them in
stock. You'll need a new air filter too while we're at it. You going to
source that, or shall I order one tomorrow from up the road? They aint
cheap cos I doubt there's a pattern one available for your bike.


--
Lozzo
Suzuki SV650S K5
Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
Suzuki GSXR750 L
Suzuki TS50X
Suzuki TS50X

 

don't do it too often, you'll go blind.

 

Oil and filter were changed, um about 2 to 3K ago so yes.
Order air filter from up the road please.
Spark plugs?

 

Or left over snow and ice from the elephant. It's been out 3 times
since the end of January.

<nods again>

Thanks.

 

I can get plugs up the road or in Luton.


--
Lozzo
Suzuki SV650S K5
Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
Suzuki GSXR750 L
Suzuki TS50X
Suzuki TS50X

 

Air filter is a washable foam one, so not buying a new one. Plugs are
about 36 quid though, so that's taken up the saving on the air filter.
At least they are in stock up the road.

--
Lozzo
Suzuki SV650S K5
Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
Suzuki GSXR750 L
Suzuki TS50X
Suzuki TS50X

 

Careful of his euphemisms, Nina.
--
Champ

ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer
My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle
To email me, neal at my domain should work.

 

To be fair, the subject is overloaded with euphamism. I think the Gel can
take it,

 

I'm not taking his spiccy wand!

 

In communiqué

The trouble with you youngsters is that you have never worked on SO
Italian bikes with true CDI ignition [1]. Never rule out a weak spark
ignition problem until proved otherwise.

Though fuel ills may well be the most likely diagnosis on a modern bike
with the symptoms described.

[1] e.g. Morini and early Gilera Nordwest. Both can eventually and
randomly start if turned over long enough and fast[2] enough to get
lucky with a viable spark if the charging coil in the stator is
sub-optimal.
[2] Which can be a function of battery state or fatigue of kick starting
leg.
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| Pete Fisher at Home: |
| Voxan Roadster Gilera Nordwest * 2 Yamaha WR250Z |
| Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" |
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There's plenty that have and plenty that will.

--
Lozzo
Suzuki SV650S K5
Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
Suzuki GSXR750 L
Suzuki TS50X
Suzuki TS50X

 

<snip>

What bike is it?

 

Chain and sprockets?