[QUOTE] A 20k limit on a card? I presume it was an Amex one. Either way... fscking hell. [/QUOTE] Naaaaa, £20k limit on a typical platinum card is obviously a fair few bob to be sure but I don't think it's anything to get terribly jumpy up and down about; they hand the feckers out like sweets these days and before you know it as long as you've played fair you'll have a wacking great limit. Even my gf who only graduated in 2002 and didn't start work until December of that year got herself a Barclaycard thingy with a credit limit that made her eyes stand out on stalks... in debt already (student loan, small one but debt just the same), only just started work, doesn't own property, and still they gave her a limit of about 25% of her annual gross salary, just like that, no bother. Crazy IMO. Oh, and I know a bloke who works for the blummin' underground, which isn't the best paid work there is but he's got a CC with a five figure limit on it. Bloody expensive way to borrow £20k though (if borrowing is what you are doing), even with 'low rate' cards there's cheaper ways to raise the dosh (assuming yer a property owner that is). Could always rate-tart it for a quick and cheap pay off mind. Store cards can also go to five figures if you've been a good boy. Amex sort of pretend that they don't have a limit, but in reality the limit is "whatever you have demonstrated that you can repay at the end of a month". Presumably Diners works much the same way? One assumes though that when buying pricey things like bikes on a CC the vendor will either slap a hefty admin fee on top of the agreed price or refuse to offer a discount cos of the CC charges and all that? Dunno... never tried it, always paid cash (and only ever had ratty machines <g>). ZK