[QUOTE] Bugger, but even limping away from a bike accident is better than other alternatives. It sounds like a low speed drop? A gutter out of a carpark and short legs?[/QUOTE] You can blame the people who mandated right foot brakes. They obviously rode on the other side of the road and had no problems with gutters on their left side. At one time British bikes had the brake on the left so you could put your foot down on the high side of the roadway. Theo