Ignition Question

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Dr. Big Maggot, May 16, 2004.

  1. I have a question for those who understand bike electrics, specifically the
    ignition system.

    A mate has just bought a Husky 610TE, 1993 model. It's had a tough life and
    has been abused by previous owners and I'm currently helping him to get it
    back to a good, reliable state.

    Needless to say, it was running OK when we bought it (Friday last week) but
    now refuses to start. To cut a long story short, the spark was getting
    weaker over the course of the day (Satruday - we fixed a few oil leaks,
    repacked mufflers, replaced stripped bolts, etc. etc, but did nothing to
    stop it working, other than cleaning and gapping the original plug, to
    specifications).

    Eventually, we lost all spark. I was getting a weak spark through other
    (incorrect size) plugs, so the first thing I did was replace the plug. $20
    later, and a new Iridium plug (the bike shop saw my mate coming) we had it
    running... like a beast!

    This lasted for exactly 3 laps of the block, until a few nasty backfires and
    then dead... no spark at all.

    I am suspecting the coil, but I want to be sure that the stator is OK. I
    don't know that I'm going to be able to get hold of another Husky coil for
    testing without actually buying one, so I want to know if there's any way of
    testing the output from the stator first.

    Can someone point me in the right direction please?
     
    Dr. Big Maggot, May 16, 2004
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    Frank Warner Guest

    Measure the coil resistance. Both 'sides' - primary and secondary.
    eg - just some figures I made up so you have an idea of what to measure
    Primary continuity - 20 ohms
    Secondary continuity - 100,000 ohms

    Primary to secondary insulation - 2,000,000 ohms (or more - depends on
    how high you meter reads)
    Primary to mount insulation - 2,000,000 ohms (or more - depends on how
    high you meter reads)
    Secondary to mount insulation - 2,000,000 ohms (or more - depends on how
    high you meter reads)

    Your measurements would have been done 'cold'. Warm the coil up - ride
    the bike or use a hair dryer to get it warm .. not hot so it burns your
    hand. Repeat the measurements and see if there is a 'significant change
    (significant ? say more than 20% change)

    While you measureing - check the stator resistance and any pick up coil
    resistance .. while it is cold.
    I think your saying that when the bike is cold everything is fine ..
    once it warms up you have a problem?
     
    Frank Warner, May 16, 2004
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    Stoneshop Guest

    Err, usually on single coils one end of the secondary has to be connected either
    to ground or to one end of the primary. Secondary continuity is what you'll
    measure between the HV (plug cable connection) of the coil and either of the
    primary connections.

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    Stoneshop, May 17, 2004
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    Frank Warner Guest

    Yep, yer correct there Rik.
    I think the mount is still insulated from the coils though so that is
    the only insulation test you can carry out with a simple ohm meter.
     
    Frank Warner, May 17, 2004
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