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OK so it attracts a lot of police attention. Are there any ADVANTAGES to
having your plate obscured?
Do you continually (and purposely) speed past fixed cameras or something?
Is it for the toll bridges?
Why all the James Bond (Secret-Squirrell?) obscuring?
Clem

 

If this means that you go steaming through the tollgates on the bridge or in
the tunnel without paying, I'll use it to downgrade my opinion of you to
"inconsiderate wanker" due to all the official and popular antagonism this
sort of behaviour generates... when the revolution starts, I don't want you
in my resistance cell.

 

Well, for one thing, you get to make yourself seem like an
attention-deficient immature little fuckwit justifying the tactic on a
newsgroup...

For another, it's sure to pop up as an argument for front-mounted plates.

I don't understand this, either... to me, riding around in regular traffic
with a covered plate says, "I'm out to be a **** and cut off and startle all
around me, but I'm too gutless to even face a shred of consequences for
that."

Grow up, you children.

 

You'll probably find that failing to follow a police directive (like them
indicating to you with a pointed finger or with flashing lights and wailing
sirens that you should be a nice chap and stop just about there) is an
offence... unless of course you think you could convince a magistrate that you
really _are_ so stupid that you didn't realise this to be the case

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX

 

Maybe it also says "I don't want to cop a fine for drifting through a school
speed zone at 43kmh with the school bus up my date"

Maybe it says "I don't want to cop a fine when the traffic situation around
me on Castle Hill Road momentarily distracts me from the most important
task of monitoring the speedo and I drift up to the ungodly speed of 65 kays
in a 60 zone"

Maybe it says "I'll be stuffed if I'm going to increase the risks to my life
by constantly riding around with my eyes glued to the fucking speedo"

Maybe it says "My prime directive is to arrive alive, doing whatever it
takes to achieve that"

Or picture this: You are half a kay from a two lane roundabout, on all the
approaches you can see buses, cars, pushbikes at a similar distance. If you
keep approaching at 59kmh, you will all arrive together at the roundabout,
and you'll be secure in the knowledge that "you've done the right thing"
when someone changes lanes into you. Or you can gun it, enter and exit the
roundabout long before any other vehicle gets near it.

There are more reasons to avoid speeding fines than just being a hoon.

M

 

Wait, I'm confused... at what time does train B leave station Y?

I'm at a loss to see how covering your plate helps you in any of the
scenarios you've outlines above...

....you're coming across like someone who's gone online, swallowed a bunch of
motorcycling old wives' tales and paranoias and are now tailoring your
street riding to suit them. How hard are you trying to get me to laugh?

 

Well, for one thing, you get to make yourself seem like an

If that is so, then you are only contributing to the problem.

How so. How is the solution to obscured back plates to make front plate
mandatory? Won't those then also be obscured? Weird logic there.

Really? It says all that? I'm just out to save a bit of cash, not terrorise
anyone or be a bad road user.
It's a common trend that if you over enforce rules, you create disobedience.
Who am I to change human nature?

All in good time.

 

Man that's harsh

 

I don't want to be held accountable for my actions.

I don't want to be held accountable for my actions.

I don't want to be held accountable for my actions.

And I don't want to be held accountable for my actions.

Of course, you could always roll off the throttle so that all the other
bastards get there before you, leaving the roundabout free for you to
use AFTER.



---
Cheers

PeterC [aka MildThing]
'81 Suzuki GS450-s
'87 BMW K100RT

www.dmcsc.org.au

 

"mike netspace.net.au>"wrote ;

But hang on; who are you (not) getting all these fines from?
Is it fixed cameras?
Can't you see them a mile off (and don't they have big warning signs?)
Or is it mobile cameras?
Don't they just radio ahead and have you pulled up?

Have you ever actually set a real live camera off and actually truly-wooly
been saved by your rego-lable or is this all just theoretical make-believe
stuff?
Clem

 

pfffft. That sounds like a GREAT idea, Peter.

 

Grow up.

Hammo

 

In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 6 Feb 2004 18:45:16 +1000

I was wondering that.

I do 350-400km a week in Sydney traffic. Mostly north and south but a
reasonable amount west as well.

I usually travel at 10 over the limit pretty well everywhere. Never had
a ticket in the city limits, and I think I can count the number of
non-fixed speedtraps I've seen in the city limits on the fingers of one
hand.

One of them was a couple of months ago, on the way to work. I was doing
a bit over 100 in a 90 zone, come around a bend to see a hairdryer
pointed in my general direction, I rolled off (as you do) but didn't get
pulled by that copper or the car a bit further ahead, or get any little
presents in the mail. Surprised me rather, as I was definitely more
than 10k over, I was expecting to be done, I was faster than most of the
traffic.

I somehow suspect that it's rather unlikely that, for example, someone
being tailgated by a school bus in a 40 zone would get done for doing
slightly more than the bus. Mind you, I find it amazing the bus would
be *doing* 40 in a school zone, they are usually starting up or pulling
in, and they usually don't get to that speed in the distance a 40 zone
covers.

I;d be interested too in how many times the poster has passed cameras
and got off tickets in the city limits when doing less than 10k over, or
riding with sense and anticipation. And how many times they have evaded
toll, or gone past a fixed or mobile camera at well over the limit.

Zebee

 

Gee, you're right Mike. $76 and attracting police attention is a bargain
compared to not speeding at all. And as for the tolls, I don't need to use
the toll ways anyway.

Then there's always the old one of "you're spoiling it for the rest of us".

 

Zeb,

Its my belief that if any part of the plate is obscured then they don't
bother to issue the infringement notice.

Mike

 

Well when you get cleaned up by some dickhead in traffic which you could
have easily outrun with only very moderate speed limit breakage at least you
(or your loved ones) can find solace in the knowledge that you were doing
the right thing.

I'm not saying speeding is safer and I'm not saying going slow is safer. I'm
saying the right speed for the right situation is safer - and if the safest
speed is under the limit, then great. And if its over the limit, also great.

 

In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 8 Feb 2004 21:11:43 +1100

I wonder how many people are cleaned up that way.

Compared to the ones cleaned up because they were going suddenly faster
than the surrounding traffic, and thus throwing the calculations of a
turning driver off?

There is never only one side to anything,

Zebee

 

But WHO don't bother to issue the infringement notices?
Who is this fooling?
Is this for fixed speed-cameras (that stand out like dog's balls anyway) or
is this actually fooling real live coppers?
So far all I've heard is that it ATTRACTS police attention.
Clem

 

I'd be interested too in how many times the poster has passed cameras

I've only been doing it since I got my new reg (Jan). I ride past 4 cameras
each day and don't know if I've been snapped or not, in peak hour traffic
you can't get over the limit anyway. I do go through the Etoll everyday
though. I have a Etag but it doesn't read it about 1/2 the time so those
ones I get for free.
I'll leave it unobscured for the next week or two as there is only one road
out of here, and the same bike cop has been there the last few days. I'll
keep everyone posted with my experiment.

 

Or how many people are saved that way?
I've been in situations where a quick twist got me out of a bind. You'll
never hear about those on road safety ads though.