If you don't want ID cards to be introduced

You have my support.

Dingly dong a ding dong.

 

I can't help feeling that some people in the Germany of the 1920s
thought that future governments would be benign.

I've got lovely sale of crystal balls on... want one?

 

I agree pretty much 100%. Dunt mean I'm gonna stop moaning about what I
think is important now, any more than I stopped moaning about the war.
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Someone brought that second fucking silly phrase up in the office the
other day, and I coldly reminded them that there were millions of bodies
lying in forgotten graves in Russia, Germany, and other places who,
while they were still breathing, had heard that.....

 

Well if it's a choice between comparing IDs cards with Germany in the 20s
and current European countries I think it makes sense to do the latter. But
don't let that stand in the way of a good Doomsaying.

 

Who you calling a fucking Saxon ?



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As I said at the start of this sub-thread, I don't think ID cards are
particularly bad in and of themselves, they just represent another small
freedom being removed. However the principle of any use of salami tactics
is to make such small moves that no individual move meets any real
opposition. The only counter is to draw a line in the sand and stand by it.

No I'm not, I'm asking you explain to me how, if politicians are business'
bitches, laws are made which favour the individual over the corporation.

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Laws are restrictive by their very nature, they remove "freedom", this isn't
a surprise. What we have to choose is when they are unwarranted or too
restrictive. I've placed the example of other countries that successfully
utilise ID cards without the entire popualtion being gassed and bulldozed
into shallow graves. You tell me which country introduced ID cards to the
detriment of the population. I'll reiterate my point, I'm ambivalent on the
matter. I just think the near-hysteria is unecessary.

I said you're being silly because it's not that black and white. It's
obviously in the interests of business and the governement to keep people
happy and mollified to a degree. But you're also wrong because many of the
products we so dearly crave ARE made by people who have no maximum working
hours, minimum wages, etc. It just happens "somehere else" so we don't
stress about it. Many of these countries don't have an ID card system
either, in fact in itself that causes a problem as slave workers almost
don't have an identity.

 

AndrewR said:

They had to remove that right - modern courts are too small and the
piers are all falling down now anyway, without moving them round the
country just for your amusement.

 

That'd be a pier of the realm?

 

tallbloke said:

Are you peering through your glasses?

 

Wot 'e said.

 

Just the one.

 

Or a pink triangle in some peoples cases, could be a few on here that
would need that.



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Source please.
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Well - those arrested at Menwith, at the arms fair last year

against what amounts to a handful of people arrested for "real"
terrorist activities

 

I turned down engineering jobs in the past or jacked them in because I was
asked to do work on weapons systems components. I don't view this any
differently.

Principles come at a price

Some of them are worth paying for.

 

I am glad then that I don't have any ;-)

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, ?(?¿?)? BORG amazed us all with this pearl of
wisdom:

Heh, sheep shagger.

 

Are you shore? It could be quay.

Eurovision on already?

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