If you don't want ID cards to be introduced

I know I got called a troll for mentioning this before but here goes:


Some statistics I copied from here:

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/2005_british_general_election.htm

Labour's percentage of votes - at 36% (down by 5% from 2001) - is the
lowest any winning party has ever achieved.


More people voted for the Conservatives in England than for Labour - but
the Conservatives won 92 seats less than Labour within England (285 to
193). The Conservatives received 60,000 more votes than Labour in
England.


There was an overall turnout of 61% - up 2% from 2001. But this still
means that 1/3rd of those registered to vote did not do so. More people
opted not to vote (38.7%) than voted for Labour (36%).


Labour's share of the total possible electorate was 22%.


Labour got 55% of the seats but 36% of the votes cast

The Conservatives got 30% of the seats but 33% of the votes cast

The Liberal Democrats got 10% of the seats but 22% of the votes cast.

Both the Electoral Reform Society and 'Make Votes Count' expressed their
concern that democracy within the UK was being severely diluted by the
continued use of the 'first-past-the-post' system.

 

Same here, but I was being 'kind'
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I reckon so
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Well, you won't hear it from me.. ;-)

And then some!
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Mick Whittingham wrote

Now fish out the figures for around of Jim Wotsit 30 years back. I
think you will find the figures just as skewed but in the other
direction in favour of the Tories.

As big a change to our electoral system as introducting PR into
Westminster is not something to be done on the basis of one set of one
sided figures. Far too fucking important for that even to be allowed in
the discussion that is.

 

Italy had pr for years they had over 30 governments that could not make a
decision in 50 years ,they have now returned to fptp

 

steve robinson wrote

Have they returned? I didn't know that.

 

I think they returned to fptp about 4 years ago

 

You changed your views cos of somethin on UKRM?

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I don't know what you people are worried about, you've got at least
until 2013 before they become compulsory for you. For me, they'll be
compulsory from Day One. (Yes, I know, Champ; you don't have to say it).

Anyway since the card will have all three of the above:
Chance of failing facial recognition: 0.52
Chance of failing fingerprints: 0.20
Chance of failing Iris recognition: 0.10 (The Guardian quotes this as
0.04, by the way).

Chance of failing all three: 0.52x0.20x0.10 = 0.01

So there's a 99% chance of at least one biometric confirming your ID.
Leaving aside disabled people, it rises to 99.4%. Chance of passing all three:
35% for disabled, 50% for able-bodied. As steve said, the techniques can only
improve. Apparently the fingerprint recognition was so low because the
scanner didn't have enough resolution -- a simple-enough fix. Coupled with
proposals to record up to all ten digits:
Failure for one digit: 0.2
Failure for both of two: 0.04
Failure for all of 5: 0.00032
Failure for all of 10: one in ten million

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How many weren't the offspring of the mother?

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Catman scribbled on the back of a napkin:

You were looking at the worst-case scenario when the cost only
doubled...

 

"We'd rather have ID cards and a quisling for president than let the fucking
Tories back in"?

 

I didn't vote[1] this time, first time since '77 I've missed one.
However, it wasn't a choice, I had to travel that week at short notice
so to late to sort anything out. A discussion with WUN of this parish
on the weekend before suggests that always applying for a postal vote
is the way to go.

[1] Not that my vote makes any difference locally
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/hoc/constituency/0,9338,-1029,00.html

 

Um?

[Adopts fatherly protective pose]

This may come as a surprise but babies aren't found under gooseberry
bushes.

 

I thought NuLabour *were* the political wing of the Conservative party?

 

I thought they were the political wing of the Republican party.

 

platypus scribbled:

They weren't the only other party.

 

Thanks, Dad, but I remember at least one case of mix-ups between
babies in the hospital. Was wondering how common this might be. (Also
not unknown cases of teenagers disappearing from high-school for 6 or 7
months only to return after their mother presented a newborn baby.)

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