Sure - and make sure you get one of those One Account type mortgages, rather than paying tax on the already piffling amount of interest from your liquid savings. -- Guy === WARNING: may contain traces of irony. Contents may settle after posting. http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk
Possible award for Saddest Gits I've Seen goes to a couple at the National Motorcycle Show sometime back in the 80s. We'd gone up in the car as there were 4 of us and it just made more sense than 2+2 pillions in case we bought anything biggish and/or wanted to blether on the road. When we parked at the NEC there were a couple standing behind their *car* changing into their biking leathers from their normal clothes. Once thus attired, they walked into the show... Pete.
This sounds *exactly* the same sort of methodology as is applied to sidecars. "They scare the shit out of you, and everyone crashes them, but insurance is next to nothing, so they must be OK".
There's ca. 20,000 in use in the NL, and as yet nobody has come up with any evidence from that fairly reasonable sample base to suggest they're any worse than uprights when it comes to safety. Though people with little or (more often) no actual experience of riding them on roads often declare that they *must* be unsafe for a variety of reasons, it's generally the case that those who actually *do* ride them on roads have considerable experience of the alternatives and don't find the issues raised to be problems, and it is their lives on the line after all. I often get something like "you must feel very vulnerable down there!" (i.e., statement, not question), and I point out I'm about car seat height on my particular model, and I'm not believed until I put the bike next to a parked car and sit on it to demonstrate, and so on. And then I point out things like the intrinsically safer braking characteristics, but of course That's Different... People decide they're dangerous because they're different and *then* they rationalise why that *must* be so. People who actually ride them don't find these problems. And in your suggestion above, it isn't *exactly* the same, as they generally don't scare the shit out of the people that actually ride them. You could scare the shit out of most people not used to a high performance motorcycle by giving them a quick spin through some fast corners, but that doesn't equate to them being necessarily dangerous. "Everyone" isn't crashing them as far as the available evidence goes (as Guy points out, the evidence isn't there, which is different from one lot of evidence being bad but ignored because some other evidence says it might be okay). Pete.
Interesting. I have to confess I really, really enjoyed the one I rode in a sort of "toboggan down an unknown hill very fast" way but I did feel appallingly vulnerable. Which is silly really, because I don't think, as you say, that you are. The one I rode was a trike: two wheels fore, one wheel aft. The only real prob was that the chain run was so long to the rear derailleur that there was a lot of slop in it and it kept coming off, but then it could have just been set up badly.
But I'm taking tax avoidance not tax evasion. Use all the loop holes left open by our nice Mr Brown. The same ones that the NuLab MPs use
A good financial advisor could tell you. There are lots of ways to have an income without paying tax legally. Most of the MPs do it with their savings. The nice Mr Brown left the way open for them after a little pressure from close friends.
As opposed to tax evasion, practiced by the friends of Tory MPs. Mick, you're really wasting your time trying to slur the Labour Party as immoral and untrustworthy; the tories have those down to a tee.
This seems to imply that you think I am a follower of the Tory party, you are wide of the mark, but would I be wrong in categorising you as a NuLab party faithful. Faith in the true sense. But that aside. What I wrote is not a slur Ben, it's one of the methods I use for my income from savings. The one that the nice Mr Brown left open after party pressure. As immoral and untrustworthy, I would guess I know personally a few more MP's from both sides of the house than you do. [1] Enough to say that I believe NuLab slowed down the Tory's gravy train long enough to get on it.[2] [1] And that's not just the parliamentary space committee who I have got p*ssed with.[3] [2] perhaps Alan Clark should be counted aside from that remark. I knew him and his wife on a personal basis. Both very nice people. He was so stinking rich that he couldn't be pushed round by any party whips threatening his position. He would have been voted in around Saltwood if he had stood for the Monster Raving Loony Party. The local people believed in him. [3] Contacts which put me in the position when I came back from working in Europe when I finished running a largish German company, of being ask by two parties in the UK to stand for MEP. Both of which I turned down.
Hey, no problem. It doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'm rude and objectionable enough to others after all...
Well depends on the bike really Ben. I don't tend to wear anything apart from 'normal' clothes (with a 'bike jacket') on bikes at the weekend but do wear leather jeans on my way to work during the week (about 60 miles).
Umm. Hopefully. Need to get a couple of things done, which might run into mid-afternoon. I'll call you. ****! Having a job really fucks with the rest of your life, doesn't it!
Is that what motorcyclists have instead of girlfriends? Just curious. -- Guy === WARNING: may contain traces of irony. Contents may settle after posting. http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk
I don't think that, but you do spend a good amount of time posting "nudge nudge, wink wink" snippets of hearsay and uncorroborated information - all directed at discrediting the current Labour government. You come across as a Tory sympathiser. If that's not the way it is, feel free to post your political allegiances. I consider myself very Old Labour. I'm not a member of a political party atm. You might be surprised. I'm very well connected, politically. Depends how you define rich. He was very wealthy, but he never had a bank account in credit. Overdrafts of up to a million quid at various banks. When they stopped his credit line, he just opened accounts at other banks. I'm not going to call you a liar, but I just don't believe this.
Ben, if you're suggesting for a moment that Labour are inherently trustworthy I'll be very disappointed in your naievity. Lord Acton said that "Power Corrupts; Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely". The longer a party is in power with no effective opposition the sleazier they will look. Look at the Hinjuda brothers, Bernie Ecclestone, Henry McLeish, Keith Vaz, Geoffery Robinson, Peter Mandelson, Derry Irvine, Stephen Byers, Jo Moore, Jeff Hoon, Alaistair Campbell, The first ladies *supported* lies over Carol Caplin, the issue over ordering smallpox vaccine from a large labour party donor, The whole sad and sorry incident with the lies over Iraq, the hanging out of Dr Kelly etc. Sure Labour have less incidents but they've also been in power about 1/3 of the time. There were some rotten apples on the Tory benches when in government, there are some on the labour benches now. No party can claim to be sleaze free and when one tries to (as Blair did in '97) it should set alarm bells ringing because we're being lied to.
