I need to stay away from the auctions

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Fraser Johnston, Aug 26, 2008.

  1. Fraser Johnston

    GB Guest

    Eumuchissit? (and whereissit?)


    GB
     
    GB, Aug 27, 2008
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  2. Fraser Johnston

    Knobdoodle Guest

    I know the part 2 answer; Brisneyland.
     
    Knobdoodle, Aug 27, 2008
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  3. Fraser Johnston

    Boxer Guest

    send your email address to r601969atyahoodotcom and I will shoot your some
    photos and details.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Aug 27, 2008
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  4. Fraser Johnston

    GB Guest

    OK, well that tells me the answer to the first part. I've got a
    brother-in-law up that way who WILL talk him down to threefiddy,
    and Boxer will gladly take the kickindanuts to be rid of him!


    GB
     
    GB, Aug 27, 2008
    #24
  5. I'm in Taswegia and there aren't a lot of bikes on the market down
    here and when there are they go for a premium.
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Aug 28, 2008
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  6. Ahuh... and how many wrecks have you brought back from the dead to be
    able to offer such in-depth, detailed advice on the subject?

    (four, and working on a fifth, incidentally...)
     
    intact.kneeslider, Aug 29, 2008
    #26
  7. 2 bikes and a car so far. The other GSX-R I am going to wreck for parts
    and stick everything on ebay. I should probably do that with the K7 as
    well but it is too damn good to wreck.

    Fraser
     
    Fraser Johnston, Aug 29, 2008
    #27
  8. Fraser Johnston

    Toosmoky Guest

    Kevin Gleeson wrote:

    Boag's Premium or Cascade Premium?
     
    Toosmoky, Aug 29, 2008
    #28
  9. Boag's, of course.
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Aug 29, 2008
    #29
  10. By "brought back from the dead", I mean "how many wrecks you've
    rebuilt are now running around again, registered" rather than "how
    many wrecks have you trailered home from the auctions."

    Saying that all resurrecting a wreck takes is tools in the shed and
    time on Ebay means that you've either never done it, or that you
    haven't actually done your sums at the end if you had.

    There's a reason the only people who manage to make enough money out
    of the process to make it worthwhile have to use stolen parts to do it.
     
    intact.kneeslider, Aug 29, 2008
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  11. Sorry but you are wrong. There is 2 ways to make money. Rebuilding and
    breaking for parts. I got the triumph from an auction. Took it
    home, taped up the fairing and rode it to the licencing centre the next
    day and registered it. I am now riding it. I just got back from
    Melbourne with the new fairing and I am in the process of painting it
    and the bike will be like new. Total cost for an 07 Triumph Daytona 675
    will be just a tick over 7 grand.

    The K7 GSX-R 1000 I am in the process of doing now needs plastics, a
    radiator and a new headlight. Plastics on ebay from Hong Kong are $800
    US shipped, I've got a radiator for $250 shipped from the states and a
    headlight will be no more than $700 from the dealer. I paid $4k for the
    bike. Total cost will be well under 7 grand. Both bikes are worth well
    over 12 on the second hand market. If you aren't doing stuff like this
    then you are doing something wrong.

    Fraser
     
    Fraser Johnston, Aug 29, 2008
    #31
  12. So it's done the headlight and the rad... that means a frontal impact.
    Get the frame checked.

    "But it looks straight."

    I don't care; get it checked. The cast front halves of those frames
    don't bend; they crack.
    ....and they come with a complimentary gold Rolex.
    A brand-new GSX-R1000 can be had for under 17k on the road these days.
    Absolute top-dollar for a year-old example with a few goodies on it is
    about $13,500.

    A REVS check done on the one you'll be selling will see it come up as
    having been a repairable write-off, and it'll be dressed in bodge-
    tastic Kinezo knock-off fairings.

    Is the frame marked? How about the swingarm? Pipes? Footpegs and
    brackets? Levers? Bar ends? Tank? Engine covers? The bottoms of the
    forks? Any and all that stuff is a deduction.

    My prediction; $9000... it being a repairable write-off alone knocks a
    couple grand off its value.

    The only way to make the sort of margin on a wreck you're thinking of
    is if you find a complete muppet to sell to, and those tend to get
    scooped up by bikeshops.
     
    intact.kneeslider, Aug 29, 2008
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  13. It was a side impact.
    I will definitely be getting it checked.
    Get on ebay and look, read the feedback and have a look on some forums.
    The plastics coming out of Korea are brilliant quality.
    They aren't 17k on the road here in WA. They are closer to 19k. The
    one I have also has 2 grands worth of Titanium Yoshi exhaust on it.
    Last 2 bikes I sold the guys buying them didn't even test ride them.
    All that stuff is fine. The plastics took the brunt. The pegs are perfect.
    So I make 3 grand on a bike for about 4 days work. Still not bad going.
    Dime a dozen here. People would fall over themselves to get a 12k one
    year old GSX-R in this state. The second hand market here is tiny. Go
    to bikesales.com.au and look at all the bikes in WA.

    There is 2 GSX-Rs one is an 04 for $12500 and the other is an 03 for
    $11995. Even if you knock 2 k off those asking prices my bike is 12
    grand all day long.

    Fraser
     
    Fraser Johnston, Aug 29, 2008
    #33
  14. While I accept that you could be buying Korean made plastics through a
    Hong Kong retailer, Hong Kong is more often associated with China.
     
    lemmiwinks.au, Aug 29, 2008
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  15. Fraser Johnston

    Knobdoodle Guest

    By "brought back from the dead", I mean "how many wrecks you've
    rebuilt are now running around again, registered" rather than "how
    many wrecks have you trailered home from the auctions."

    Saying that all resurrecting a wreck takes is tools in the shed and
    time on Ebay means that you've either never done it, or that you
    haven't actually done your sums at the end if you had.

    There's a reason the only people who manage to make enough money out
    of the process to make it worthwhile have to use stolen parts to do it.
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    They don't have all that "repairable write-off" palaver in WA IK. As far as
    I'm aware it's just a simple rego inspection like any other bike; not the
    whole pay-$500 for the inspection, get bounced 'cause you haven't got a
    receipt for the replaced footpeg-rubber, and then pay $500 for the
    re-inspection when you can get anopther appointment in 3 months time.......
     
    Knobdoodle, Aug 29, 2008
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  16. Fraser Johnston

    Nev.. Guest

    Not sure if that is still relevant. WA are online to the NEVDIS
    database which is the national shared database of driver licensing and
    vehicle registrations, and since about June last year the states share
    information vehicles which have been declared statutory or repairable
    writeoffs.

    And as an aside, a late of frustration and potential warning to the
    unprepared about registering repaired writeoffs. In 2005 a bike was
    written off in SA, and purchased, shipped to Victoria, all the paperwork
    was in order, receipts produced, a VIV obtained and the bike registered
    in Victoria and sold. Mid 2007 repairable writeoffs were added to the
    NEVDIS database and information about written off vehicles shared
    between states to stop bikes being written off in one state and stolen
    bikes rebirthed in another state I presume. 2008 the bike is sold and
    shipped to Queensland. QLD transport access NEVDIS and see that SA
    transport have registered the bike on the system as a repaired writeoff,
    but Vicroads have never entered the information about the VIV
    certificate into the system, so they need a VIV certificate to be
    obtained, for which all the receipts must be obtained, but they cannot,
    because the bike was VIV'd 2 years and 2 owners prior and the
    documentation no longer exists. Many telephone calls, letters, 3 trips
    in the trailer to Qld transport and 14 days later the bike finally gets
    registered.

    Nev..
    '07 XB12X
     
    Nev.., Aug 29, 2008
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  17. Fraser Johnston

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Fark; that's a trick!!
    Thanks Nev; I'll have to be wary of that.
     
    Knobdoodle, Aug 29, 2008
    #37
  18. That may well be, but the problem isn't the inspection and having to
    produce receipts for the replacement parts you've fitted, it's the
    entirely arbitrary and thoroughly exorbitant fee they attach to it for
    the express purpose of making it unprofitable to resurrect wrecks - or
    more tempting to resort to Midnight Spares, Inc, and falsified receipts.

    If the WA fee is a nominal $60-$70 to cover the inspectors' time, rather
    than the $600-$700 they charge over this end of the country, then
    Fraser's already some distance ahead.
     
    IK Laboratories, Aug 29, 2008
    #38
  19. What he said.

    Fraser
     
    Fraser Johnston, Aug 29, 2008
    #39
  20. Yep. $50 for a normal inspection.

    Fraser
     
    Fraser Johnston, Aug 29, 2008
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