I hate the armstrong again.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by mark, Dec 4, 2010.

  1. mark

    mark Guest

    Spent 2 hours trying to get the bloody rear wheel spindle out.
    Much wedging, levering, oiling and tapping and it finally came out.
    There's a step in it where it goes through the brake drum/sprocket
    assembly. Water must be able to get to there and a bit of ali/steel
    corrosion had got going.
    In my enthusiasm to get the trellys on I pinched the bloody tube :(
    The spare tube is at home of course whilst this stuff is going on at my
    work premises.
    Rescued by the missus and it's sat there with no wheels.

    I may go and look at xt's tomorrow.........
     
    mark, Dec 4, 2010
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    It makes sense in the long run.

    You can pick up an older one for under a grand and there's always a
    good supply available. You could always splash out about £3.5k and get
    a Tenere with a nice big petrol tank and once the reg/rec has been
    checked out they're a pretty good bike.

    It's worth noting that if you went down the Tenere route all you'd
    have to do is pull the block connector to the reg/rec, check it for
    any signs of corrosion and if it's ok spray some silicone grease on
    there and shove it back together. If it's corroded Yamaha know about
    the problem and will give you a new reg/rec and wiring harness FOC.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Dec 4, 2010
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  3. Shame they didn't do that for the old model :-(
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 4, 2010
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    Nige Guest

    First refusal?

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    Nige,

    'Candygram for Mongo'

    R1
     
    Nige, Dec 4, 2010
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    sweller Guest

    I may want it for parts...
     
    sweller, Dec 4, 2010
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  6. mark

    sweller Guest

    I had no problem doing mine. I dropped the rear wheel simply because it
    made access to a fastener easier. All I needed was an old bit of bar to
    undo it - two minute job.

    I guess you didn't want to hear that.
     
    sweller, Dec 4, 2010
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  7. mark

    mark Guest

    You *want* an MT500?!
     
    mark, Dec 4, 2010
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  8. mark

    mark Guest

    It'll be OK now. Just had never been taken off I think.
    Bit of a clean up and some grease ;)
     
    mark, Dec 4, 2010
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    sweller Guest

    I actually like mine; it's got all the right names: Ohlins shocks,
    Marzochi (sp?) forks and Grimeca brakes but...

    ....does yours:

    Have a really rough low end - feels/sounds like the engine is doing some
    self-harm pulling at low revs, but running at higher speeds and it's
    sweet and lively.

    Have stupidly bright idiot lights (except the gen light) - especially the
    "Lights on" and main beam warning lights.

    Records distances in KM but speeds in MPH and have a broken trip reset

    Leaks oil from the sump pan.

    Well, does it?
     
    sweller, Dec 4, 2010
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  10. mark

    mark Guest

    I like mine once it's going.
    It doesn't sound bad ticking over actually.
    Sounds fine going.
    Not particularly. Some lights don't work though. No neutral or generator
    light. [1]
    Haven't tried. [1]
    Not sure. [1]
    Does yours:

    Always start promptly or only when it feels like it?

    Use a lot of oil?

    Is the speedo' needle useful beyond 20mph?

    Does your carburettor have a plastic knob or a lever? [2]

    Does it restart easily if you stall/stop it hot?

    1. Tomorrow I intend to get to the bottom of these things with a
    spanner.

    2. I'm starting to suspect this carb is maladjusted or the wrong one [1]
     
    mark, Dec 4, 2010
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    sweller Guest

    Mine sounds pretty rough idling - Champ's heard it. Not sure why it
    sounds so poor and pulls poorly at low revs as it really is very nice "on
    song". Perhaps it's the carb as it improves as it gets hotter?

    First or second kick - always needs choke unless it's screaming hot and
    only just stopped.

    Yes, but the fucker won't be going rusty. Suspect the O ring sump pan
    seal. They also have reputation for burning a bit.

    I need to fix the leak and calculate consumption rates for the 4000 mile
    trip. I may be taking the best part of a gallon spread over 4x1 litre
    bottles.

    Not bad - you may find the cable could do with greasing if it's swinging
    about the shop.

    Mine's a Mikuni and has metal choke lever on its side that lifts a little
    plunger. It's a PITA as my winter gloves struggle to flip it back up as
    the oil return pipe is in the way - summer gloves are ok.

    I may have a Guzzi cable operated one that might be persuaded to fit.

    I'm going to find the actual source of the sump leak.

    Sounds like it - the OE Amal has a piss poor reputation.

    What does the MT Riders Forum say about jetting?
    http://forum.mtridersclub.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=82
     
    sweller, Dec 4, 2010
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    That just sounds odd.
     
    Pip Luscher, Dec 4, 2010
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    sweller Guest

    Well, it turns out some PO has replaced every bulb with a super bright
    LED. He's also done a very neat job of it too. All very well done with
    neat, proper crimped connections and mucho heat shrink. Problem is what
    all the extra bits are/do is in his head.

    I now know how to disconnect the fairy lights (only those who have seen
    them will understand).

    The non-working speedo light was down to a broken solder joint to the
    original bulb holder - I replaced that with a spare Guzzi holder and
    filament bulb.

    The "stupidly bright idiot" lights were toned down with the aid of a
    Quality Street wrapper stuffed in the lamp housing.

    Th PO may have been neat and professional...
     
    sweller, Dec 5, 2010
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  14. mark

    mark Guest

    Took the bugger off and had a good look at it today.
    It's definitely a Mikuni VM 32-33.
    Once started the bike runs well so I'm assuming the main jet and needle
    must be OK.
    It even ticks over OK so the pilot jets must be OK.

    So why is it such a twat to start and won't start on choke (enrichment
    device really)

    Took the float bowl off and it's as clean as a whistle in there.
    Forgot to check the main jet size and check the float level though :(
    The throttle cable was pretty tight so I did wonder if the slide was not
    quite going all the way down so adjusted that.
    Checked the carb-head rubber and though its a bit rough it is sound.
    Made sure the air filter was seated properly and put it all back
    together.
    The air screw was 3 turns out which seemed a bit much so turned it in to
    1 1/2 out.
    Checked the plug and sure enough [1] it was a little dark, not sooty
    though.
    It simply will not start. Plug gets really wet.
    Tried dropping the needle a slot in desperation but no go.
    Put it all back to how it was and it starts wanting to fire.

    Checked the spark and it looks reasonable enough; white rather than
    blue.


    1. It only starts with no choke [2] so it must be a little rich if it
    starts cold (eventually) when its being ridden about no?
    2. Enrichment device; on or off.
     
    mark, Dec 5, 2010
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    mark Guest

    In message <>, sweller

    Having tinkered all day;
    I don't appear to have one.....
     
    mark, Dec 5, 2010
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    sweller Guest

    Knowing how and doing are not the same thing.
     
    sweller, Dec 5, 2010
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    Try a grade softer plug in this weather? My big bore high compression
    Nordwest was a pig to start when cold. A whiff of throttle or choke and
    it would sulk or give the occasional huge KSB effect , but a DPR8
    instead of 9 made a big difference, even more so if an EV or whatever
    the new super whizz bang NGKs are.
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    Pete Fisher, Dec 5, 2010
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    zymurgy Guest

    Cheeky ****. It's not a breaker !

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Dec 6, 2010
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    If it's not a breaker it needs someone to find one that is being
    broken to make it even half reliable.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Dec 6, 2010
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