I feel old

Maybe because some of us aren't looking forward to the inevitable day when
i) the servers crash, ii) millions of cloud-based accounts are hacked, or
iii) both of the above.

 

Why worried? I think it's you showing your age. My daughters have never
lost any emails through a hard drive failure. I have.

I now use webmail & OE but I always mails on the web server.

Tim

 

I think if you add 'personal' in there, the figure's not *that* far out.

None of my family use a proper client for their personal email, although
at least two of them use Outlook at work.

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i) i have a copy of all useful emails stored at home. But the web
browser is my primary interface

ii) big deal, don't store sensitive information in emails

iii) whatever

 

Can you save e-mails from GMail's webmail interface? Seems to defeat the
purpose, really. Plus, if my Internet connection goes tits-up (which it
does every couple of weeks), I have all my e-mails stored here (and
mirrored to my laptop).

 

err, it only started in the very early '80s[0] and peaked in
popularity in the late '90s - she's probably only familiar with
Facebook and web forums, and - maybe - if she's old enough - stuff
like LiveJournal[1]

[0] I remember when the alt.sex tree was created in about 1984; I
remember reading about it in the original incarnation of C&VG.[2]
[1] does anyone other than me remember this?
[2] right, now *I* feel old[3]
[3] I was speaking to a job agent earlier today, and he asked me what
my first programming experience was in; I told him "6502 assembly
language" and he just boggled, and couldn't understand at all what I
meant.

 

pity T B-L didn't patent it!

 

Is the right answer. I forward important emails that I need to save to
a second Gmail account that I synch with Outlook, the rest just live in
the primary Gmail account.

 

Pat runs Gmail IMAP from PC (Thunderbird) and phone, I run spamcop
IMAP from PC and netbook (both Thunderbird). I'd have thought we were
typical. Why fart about with webmail when you can have it delivered to
your door, so to speak.

 

You reckon?

http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/gmail-back-soon-for-everyone.html

OK, granted, they were able to recover from backup, but there was a loss
of service and they offer no SLA for the free service (and it's
debatable how much you get if you pay).

 

It is delivered to my door. It's delivered to my phone. It's accessible
from my PC or any other with a web browser. There's nothing stored
locally (aside from the copy that I skim off for optional archive, but
that happens in the background automatically).

The last thing I want is a thick client. I'm not a convert to using
things like spreadsheets in a browser, but for a simple medium like
email it does the job perfectly well.

 

My 'master archive' is my Mac, but as it gets e-mail via IMAP, there's
always a copy for my laptop, or my iPhone. And the ~/Library/Mail
directory gets mirrored to the laptop every hour, anyway.

It used to really piss me off, losing e-mails. I'm a 'hoarder'. After the
theft of my laptop in 2005, I lost them all except for some I'd backed up
to DVD. Now I have every e-mail sent and received from 2005. And as
they're just text and stored on my own hardware, I don't have to worry
about 'you are approaching the limit of your free storage. Upgrade now for
only $29.99 per month !!'

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Which is all very well if you trust the web rogues not to peek and
harvest your mail for their "personalisation" services to target
you with their adcrap or just hand over all of your email to plod.

I run my own mailserver, incoming mail arrives direct via my MX
record and outgoing mail goes direct to destination.
Wandering access from a phone or laptop is not a problem, IMAP is
easy enough to set up.

Backups run automagically every night thanks to cron and rsync so
server recovery is not a major issue if (yea right - when) it breaks.

 

I do similar. Google Apps account access via Imap on two laptops, one
phone, and previously, one iPad. In sync across the lot and multiple
backups by the nature of the beast.

 

I reckon even fewer[1] people would know what IMAP was than could
understand the difference between web an internet.

In fact, thinking back, I don't know anyone that doesn't work in IT that
knows it.

I've been using my own IMAP servers for years, and really can't see why
they aren't more popular, but meh.

[1]Phew! That was close! </young ones>

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<cf Lionel Blair>

You do now.

</cf Lionel Blair>

 

Is it a book?

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though I'm sure you have plenty.

 

TV ad. I misquoted it, which doesn't help!

 

Same here. Then occasionally I read an old email and I cringe, and I
delete the lot.

There are very few (personal) emails worth keeping.