I feel old

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Jérémy, May 19, 2011.

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    Jérémy Guest

    I've just explained to our social media specialist what Usenet is. She'd
    never heard of it.
     
    Jérémy, May 19, 2011
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    davethedave Guest

    It's just north and west of the IRC Isles near the Sea of Memes.
     
    davethedave, May 19, 2011
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    Jim Guest

    "Google groups"
     
    Jim, May 19, 2011
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    Krusty Guest

    You are sir.tony AICMFF mentalists.
     
    Krusty, May 19, 2011
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    Mups Guest

    A bit crap at their job then. A 'specialist' should really know
    something about the origins of whatever the specialise in. Or are they
    really hoping to spend all their time updating their facebook and
    twitter pages while getting paid for it.

    Sounds a perfect job for Ogden, thinking about it.
     
    Mups, May 19, 2011
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    ogden Guest

    Already got it, thanks.
     
    ogden, May 19, 2011
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    Another John Guest

    She'll know all about the Internet though: it's what comes up when she
    double-clicks the Internet Explorer icon.
     
    Another John, May 19, 2011
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    Gyp Guest

    Have you explained that in the early days of e-mail, you had to
    determine the route that the e-mail would take and type it into the
    headers? And the e-mail would typically only take one hop a day, so
    e-mailing the US from the UK might take a week or so?
     
    Gyp, May 19, 2011
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    zymurgy Guest

    I was explaining to one of my managers about the vampire tap and thick
    wire ethernet.

    He said 'before my time i'm afraid'

    :-(

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, May 19, 2011
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    des Guest

    How old is she? SO is 36 and she has still to grasp that 'the web' is not
    the same thing as 'the Internet'.

    --
    des
    'We are now in the 92nd year of a peace process in which the
    Fakestinians are the first people in history to be offered a state
    seven times, reject it seven times, and set preconditions for
    discussing an eighth offer...'
    (Professor Benny Morris)
    <http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>
     
    des, May 19, 2011
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    Jérémy Guest

    Good point. I think I might print that map and stick it on my wall. I'll
    have to check whether she knows xkcd.
     
    Jérémy, May 20, 2011
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    CT Guest

    Technically it isnt, no, but it amounts to the same thing for 99.9% of
    the world's population[1] I think.

    [1] I've only ever had geeks and pedants (or is it just geeky
    pedants?)point it out to me anyway.
     
    CT, May 20, 2011
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    Jérémy Guest

    That's before even my time. When I first became responsible for a mail
    system we were already moving to .uucp addresses.

    True stories: I joined my current employer in 1994, as "Internet
    specialist", because they'd just got an Internet connection and they
    didn't know what to do with it. They knew all about email; they had an
    AS/400, and they used it to send email to people in other offices in the
    same building. When I proposed to set up an SMTP server so they could
    send email outside the building, the answer, in so many words, was "Why
    would we want to do that?".

    Later, once I'd explained that bit, I tried to get people interested by
    suggesting that our delegates could keep in touch with their families
    using email - we have people in some really difficult places, and in
    those days they were sometimes out of contact for weeks at a time. It
    was felt that a tool that enabled them to contact their families might
    distract them from doing thir job properly.

    Then there was the period when the entire IT department, apart from me,
    decided that the Microsoft Network (remember that?) would shortly
    replace the Internet, because it was run by a company so must be more
    better. And the months it took to persuade my colleagues to accept the
    installation of NCSA Mosaic on peoples' computers.

    Looking back, it's extraordinary how things have changed; and
    interesting yet curiously unsatisfying to have been so consistently
    right about the important things. Maybe that's just in retrospect - I'm
    not as confident now about the next important thing.
     
    Jérémy, May 20, 2011
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    Jim Guest

    I bet if you started asking them questions like "is email part of the
    web?" and "is email part of the internet?" they'd figure it out, though.

    People have these weird folk models of technology in their head and
    sometimes it's quite interesting how it affects their behaviour (for
    instance in trying to persuade people to install updates and virus
    software).
     
    Jim, May 20, 2011
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    ogden Guest

    99.9% of people will access email via their web browser. Really, for
    most people, the network and the application are indistinguishable.
    Which rather shows what a killer app the web really was.
     
    ogden, May 20, 2011
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    Catman Guest

    Indeed. I reckon most users won't even understand the question.

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    des Guest

    Well, no. It's no more 'pedantic' than pointing out that the M1 isn't
    'Britain's road network'.

    --
    des
    'People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men
    stand ready to do violence on their behalf'
    (George Orwell (1903 - 1950))
    <http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>
     
    des, May 20, 2011
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    des Guest

    Or alternatively ...

    < (sfw)

    --
    des
    'If all the girls who attended the Yale prom were laid end to end, I
    wouldn't be a bit surprised'
    (Dorothy Parker (1893 - 1967))
    <http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>
     
    des, May 20, 2011
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  19. Really? You reckon? I'd be surprised. And rather worried.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 20, 2011
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    ogden Guest

    The figure isn't important, I just used the same one as in CT's post,
    and I doubt he thought it was important either.

    But either way, webmail is the dominant format these days. The likes of
    Hotmail and Gmail alone probably account for the largest share. The days
    of running a dedicated app like Pegasus or OE, outside a business
    environment, are long gone. Why bother when the cloud does it so much
    better?
     
    ogden, May 20, 2011
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