I don't get it.?????????????? These moto.groups are in the process of yet another 'flame war of accusations, name calling & threats''. tx.moto has once again doubled it's ''post/responses''. In a short time, it's grown from 450 to better than a 1000. <What puzzles me>, is, the computer posters in here will have these heated discussions with folks they publicly admit to detest. The same folks deny me, a normal, regular DG contributor, the opportunity to be heard (read), simply because I'm a Webtv user. & quickly become offensive, because of not being a computer user, then consequently be thrown in a PC Kill File. But, yet, post after post,they'll participate in a ''DG Flame War of words", with folks they claim 'not to like', but won't put them in a killFile. A real good example is this fellow called Gary L, Burnmore, or something like that. Once I responded to his crap, and I was informed of his reputation, a child molester, or something like that . I was advised to ignore him. I do ignore him, but some of ya'll are responding to his crap, and evidently, he is not in yall's ''kill files''! --But yet, a WTV'er is automatically put in, (what ya'll like to call), ''bozo file''..(clonk) etc. I remember what some have claimed, that WTV is atrocious, when it comes to being interpreted by a PC News Reader deal. But, That's not the case with all PC folks. I get responses from several, who say, they don't particularly have a problem, I communicate with a few friendlies, who don't comlplain. I get responses from folks like, Beemer Biker, Albert Nurick, Jailcall, fullstate, wakko, Tim Morrow, Mr. Homa, Iceman, Bill Walker, Bill Fright (at times), Texdays, Another Viewer, Iggy, Calgary (couple of times),Brian Walker (occasionally) & maybe a few others. (Just thought of something, I don't get responses from a fellow Webtv'er, moto, hmmm, how odd. (Oh well)....) I post responses that I know are decent and civil. I post topics, that I know are intelligible, maybe not fancy, but worthy of a comment, negative or positive, it shouldn't matter. I have posted a couple of Bike Trip reports, recently. I got very few responses. I read everyones Bike Trip Report and make a point to comment. I make it a point to comment on any Bike related subject. That's called being a contributor. It shouldnt matter, If I agree, or disagree. That's referred to as offering opinions, and/or another point of view, of which usually leads to discussions. So, I guess my main point is: Some don't really want to discuss simple every day subjects for much of a time period.. I think it becomes boring, and it's time for a good ole ''Flame War''. If nothing else,some of you folks in here, need more diversity in your name calling techiques. """"""""""""""""""""--Bjay--""""""""""""""""
there are some people who are always at the center of controversy. when it's the same person repeatedly in multiple different controversies with many different people, you just have to take it at face value and figure that person causes problems for whatever reasons. as for the web tv thing, most newsreaders do a standardized formatting for responses in a thread that includes poster id and layered quotes. that's why top posting is frowned upon, because the thread will autmatically read properly when bottom posted. that has to be done manually on web-tv and even then it's not quite the same. BJ, you make a really good effort to make your posts legible. i think if you read thru a good newsreader you would see the differences which may appear subtle at first but again: good newsreaders automatically provide a consistent format of quoting, author attribution and message id numbers. most people know that format well and can read things very quickly. consequently, when something formatted different shows up, some folks will just blow by the non-conforming post because they don't want to take the time to figure it out. there is also a tendency for people to blow off real "cutesy" posts where the author is trying to be cool with phrasing and spelling. again, lots of people don't want to spend their time decoding the post and will spike the message and messenger who does that repeatedly. i recognize your efforts to make tx.moto a reasonable place even as your most recent original post about speeding tickets was turned into a flamefest. unfortunately there are one or two individuals who are repeatedly caustic to many other people and the flame wars are the result. oh well.
Unfortunately for you, you are paying the price for a few webtver's who have preceeded you, at least in Reeky. One of them made and still makes no attempt to quote, nor does he respond to the correct post and has in my opinion been generally disruptive. Many tried to avoid the inevitable flame war by filtering out his email address. After a while he learned he could change his email address and circumvent the filters. Again he was disruptive and the only way to filter him out completely was to filter out "webtv". That eliminates his posts and also all others with a webtv email address. So first off a large contingent who regularly post in Reeky do not even see your posts. Other than that you have to realize not all who hang out there share the same interests. It is a very diverse group. There are sport riders, cruisers, guys and girls who race, many of them are MSF instructors and of course there are the posers and shit disturbers. Considering the topics you have either initiated or responded to I think you have been received very cordially, for Reeky. One word of advice, I wouldn't be posting there begging for attention. That might not be received very well. So as you stated once a while ago you are going to continue to post and I wouldn't discourage that. Your writing style is unique and your attempts to post properly and quote, while using the limited technology available to you is appreciated. Just my $.02 (Canadian) -- Don Binns 2000 - Yamaha Venture Millennium Edition 84 - Virago 1000 Disclaimer: This message may contain incidental references to various brands of motorcycles, vehicles or parts manufacturers. They are included for informational purposes only and are not intended to upset, inflame or otherwise disturb the sensibilities of anyone associated with the brands. Hyper-sensitive readers of the post who might be upset with the content are advised to make copious notes, organize them into a coherent message and then hit the delete button. http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/reeky.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/ http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/banff.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/kananaskis.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/walkercalgary.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/calgarybrowning.htm
All good points and well made, Don. I'm one of those who have kill files all webTV addresses for all the reasons you mentioned. So I'm not intentionally ignoring BJ. It just turns out to be the case.
another vewer~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ bjayKana ~~~~~~~~ BJ, you make a really good effort to make your posts legible. i think if you read thru a good newsreader you would see the differences which may appear subtle at first but again:good newsreaders automatically provide a consistent format of quoting, author attribution and message id numbers. most people know that format well and can read things very quickly. consequently, when something formatted different shows up, some folks will just blow by the non-conforming post because they don't want to take the time to figure it out. there is also a tendency for people to blow off real "cutesy" posts where the author is trying to be cool with phrasing and spelling. again, lots of people don't want to spend their time decoding the post and will spike the message and messenger who does that repeatedly. ~~~~~~~~~bjay responds back~~~~~ Well AV, thanks for your comments. I'm finding out one positive thing in this post, that a few of you guys, try to correspond. The ''cutesy'ism'' seems to be fairly common at times, from the soCalled regulars, I've noticed. I do make an effort, to make my stuff as clear as possible, I try to identify who said what, (called quotes) What is almost comical, is not receiving responses from a few, whom I know are in here right this moment, typing like mad, with their flaming hands, and can't seem to settle down and type a decent reply to my post/topic. I'm referring to a few who I know don't have me in their Bozo File. (chuckle'ing)
Bownse says)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~All good points and well made, Don. I'm one of those who have kill files all webTV addresses for all the reasons you mentioned. So I'm not intentionally ignoring BJ. It just turns out to be the case. -- Mark Johnson, Ft. Worth, TX ~~~~~~~~bjay here~~~~~~~~~~ and 2 think, all this time, I thought you didn't wanna play with me, but it's cause I plonk on a battery operated Keyboard, eh. 'Ya'll take care'' --BJAY--
It isn't fair you and other WebTv'ers have to pay for the actions of another, but it is the fact. The one who caused the problem in the first place, at one time was posting 400 and 500 messages a day. The sheer volume overwhelmed the other posts. The only way to clean up the group was to filter the word "webtv" Don't take it as a slight against you. For the record, that poster has just recently become active again, jumping on the Walker bandwagon, and I too may be beefing up my filters to get rid of him and a few others, and unfortunately it might filter out your stuff too. Once again it is not a slight against you, but something required so I can enjoy the rest of the group. -- Don Binns 2000 - Yamaha Venture Millennium Edition 84 - Virago 1000 Disclaimer: This message may contain incidental references to various brands of motorcycles, vehicles or parts manufacturers. They are included for informational purposes only and are not intended to upset, inflame or otherwise disturb the sensibilities of anyone associated with the brands. Hyper-sensitive readers of the post who might be upset with the content are advised to make copious notes, organize them into a coherent message and then hit the delete button. http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/reeky.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/ http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/banff.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/kananaskis.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/walkercalgary.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/calgarybrowning.htm
~~~~~~bownse responds to (calgary) All good points and well made, Don. I'm one of those who have kill files all webTV addresses for all the reasons you mentioned. So I'm not intentionally ignoring BJ. It just turns out to be the case. -- Mark Johnson, Ft. Worth, TX <> <> ~~~~~~~~bjay here~~~~~~~~~~ and 2 think, all this time, I thought you didn't wanna play with me, but it's cause I plonk on a battery operated Keyboard, eh. ~~~~~~Don Binns again~~~~ It isn't fair you and other WebTv'ers have to pay for the actions of another, but it is the fact. The one who caused the problem in the first place, at one time was posting 400 and 500 messages a day. The sheer volume overwhelmed the other posts. The only way to clean up the group was to filter the word "webtv" <> Don't take it as a slight against you. <> For the record, that poster has just recently become active again, jumping on the Walker bandwagon, and I too may be beefing up my filters to get rid of him and a few others, and unfortunately it might filter out your stuff too. Once again it is not a slight against you, but something required so I can enjoy the rest of the group. -- Don Binns<<> ~~~~~~~~~~~bjay here~~~~~~~~~~ I don't feel slighted, now that I read your point. Why not just single out the WEBTV'er by Name?? Not in general?? <> I appreciated any response anytime, If I get thrown out, hopefully it will only be temporary. <> I just ask ya'll, to take an inventory, often, and when things cool off, you'll flip WEBTV ''stuff'' back onLine, in your fancy computer gizmos. <> Seems to me, that's not asking 2 much. Believe me, I understand, how the new F-WAR has dumb Fuzzled both motoGroups........sheeWahWah...bjay 'Ya'll take care'' --BJAY--
Chee Wah Wah.. I like that one every time you use it Bjay.. Communicating on usenet isn't limited to webTV or any other medium.. What the hell difference does it make what you are using to get there.. LOL.. What you got to say is what's important .. Keep on keeping on.. Don Binns.. John Moran, Mark Johnson and a few of their buddies have terrorized and tried to embarrass anyone on reeky, who they didn't like, for whatever reason.. The main reason, as Don Binns just pointed out is the poster may be civil or courteous to Bill or Brian Walker..I've never encouraged anyone to engage in their flame wars or be involved in all that "fun" they claim to have at someone else's expense.. Matter of fact.. I've discouraged it.. Each one of these clowns has reason to dislike me, after all.. I've exposed each one as some kind of hypocrit and/or phony.. Some of this crew are so stupid they've exposed themselves with their own comments and declarations.. later denying it of course.. Most of them like Johnson, Moran and/or Binns activated the "No Archive" screen and then challenged someone to "Go Google".. or prove they said it.. <chuckle> Johnson was recently challenged for that reason, on tx.motorcycles, if you recall.. Knowing you personally, and the reason for your participating in any newsgroup.. I'll still caution you to stay out of these silly flamewars.. Regards to miz Honey.. Your Friend in Irving Bill Walker
It has been tried but he continued to morph his email address. The only thing he couldn't change was "webtv" so that became the word to be filtered. I have tried an alternate to webtv to cleanse the newsgroup of him. We'll see how it works. -- Don Binns 2000 - Yamaha Venture Millennium Edition 84 - Virago 1000 Disclaimer: This message may contain incidental references to various brands of motorcycles, vehicles or parts manufacturers. They are included for informational purposes only and are not intended to upset, inflame or otherwise disturb the sensibilities of anyone associated with the brands. Hyper-sensitive readers of the post who might be upset with the content are advised to make copious notes, organize them into a coherent message and then hit the delete button. http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/reeky.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/ http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/banff.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/kananaskis.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/walkercalgary.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/calgarybrowning.htm
Once again Bill you are posting lies. I have never done the No Archive thing. If anyone wants proof, google the email address I use here. You will see every one of my posts. Sadly lacking though is the one Bill keeps claiming I made. More Walker lies. This latest lie is just another attempt by you to back pedal out of your last lie. This little dance is getting interesting. -- Don Binns 2000 - Yamaha Venture Millennium Edition 84 - Virago 1000 Disclaimer: This message may contain incidental references to various brands of motorcycles, vehicles or parts manufacturers. They are included for informational purposes only and are not intended to upset, inflame or otherwise disturb the sensibilities of anyone associated with the brands. Hyper-sensitive readers of the post who might be upset with the content are advised to make copious notes, organize them into a coherent message and then hit the delete button. http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/reeky.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/ http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/banff.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/kananaskis.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/walkercalgary.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/calgarybrowning.htm
My goodness.. gracious .. What'd you want his address for ? Some of those close buddies of yours have been "morphin" for years..Message Archives and the whole bit, don't you do that, bubba ? Reckon what they are hiding ? Deniability .. Deniability.. What about that big trip to Texas.. for the t-shirt deal.. Is that still on.. I only live a short way from that area.. I'm sure going to be disappointed if you don't make it.. I'm looking forward to talking old Tim into running out there for a bit, since it's on his way.. You didn't forget again, did you ?
No need to wait Bill. You are retired, have lots of time and riding a lousy 2000 miles is no problem for a grizzled veteran of the mean streets. Here is the map to my place, again. http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/test.htm It's an open invitation, but next Saturday works for me. RSVP to either of these two groups. -- Don Binns 2000 - Yamaha Venture Millennium Edition 84 - Virago 1000 Disclaimer: This message may contain incidental references to various brands of motorcycles, vehicles or parts manufacturers. They are included for informational purposes only and are not intended to upset, inflame or otherwise disturb the sensibilities of anyone associated with the brands. Hyper-sensitive readers of the post who might be upset with the content are advised to make copious notes, organize them into a coherent message and then hit the delete button. http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/reeky.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/ http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/banff.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/kananaskis.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/walkercalgary.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/calgarybrowning.htm
Someone on reeky posted an interesting comment, shortly after I "invaded" that group, introduced myself and named the crew I was focused on.. hmmm.. That was back in January.. One of that little crew, might have been you .. pimples.. posted some kind of nonsense just about like you are posting right now.. That reekyite observed.. "don't sound like that dude is backing out of anything, sounds more like he's sitting on 45 acres with a backhoe"... don't suppose you'd recall anything like that with all that faulty memory of yours, now would you ?
Sheeeyit.. Keep trying.. knee jerk.. This is getting too damned funny .. This is rich.. You want some old man in Texas to ride all the way to Canada, just to slap the shit out of you .. ROTFLMAO... Damn.. map and everything.. whoops.. I'm impressed and I bet some of those little buddies of yours are impressed too.. Trouble is.. you are posturing.. Got caught in all that paying me a visit with a couple of your buddies and it's eating on you.. No matter how many times you deny it.. See you in Texas on your t-shirt run.. I've thought about it.. Tim Morrow won't occupy much time, and I'll be all over Possum Kingdom and that area like a blanket.. Ya'll gonna be celebrating that reunion (?) thingy at least over the weekend, aren't you ?
Once again Bill let me drag you back to the topic at hand which is your lie claiming I posted something about coming to your place, then when you tripped all over yourself trying to run away from that one you started this no archive bullshit. After I buried you on that one proving once again the truth is a foreign concept to you, you are now trying to change the subject. You are spending an awful lot of time running away from your previous statements these days Bill. Looks kinda funny to see that grizzled veteran of the mean street of Texas tripping over himself running away. Is that a warm fluid you feel dripping down your pant leg? -- Don Binns 2000 - Yamaha Venture Millennium Edition 84 - Virago 1000 Disclaimer: This message may contain incidental references to various brands of motorcycles, vehicles or parts manufacturers. They are included for informational purposes only and are not intended to upset, inflame or otherwise disturb the sensibilities of anyone associated with the brands. Hyper-sensitive readers of the post who might be upset with the content are advised to make copious notes, organize them into a coherent message and then hit the delete button. http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/reeky.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/ http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/banff.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/kananaskis.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/walkercalgary.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/calgarybrowning.htm
More misdirection. I have buried you on your claims, proving clearly they were lies and now you want to change the subject. Well start a new thread cuz you and your Dad are dying a slow death on this one. -- Don Binns 2000 - Yamaha Venture Millennium Edition 84 - Virago 1000 Disclaimer: This message may contain incidental references to various brands of motorcycles, vehicles or parts manufacturers. They are included for informational purposes only and are not intended to upset, inflame or otherwise disturb the sensibilities of anyone associated with the brands. Hyper-sensitive readers of the post who might be upset with the content are advised to make copious notes, organize them into a coherent message and then hit the delete button. http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/reeky.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/ http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/banff.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/kananaskis.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/walkercalgary.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/calgarybrowning.htm
2000 miles Bill. Just a little more than one of your typical weekend rides. You do 3/4 of that distance on a typical weekend. Leave Thursday morning and you'll be here by Saturday noon. This is getting funny. You are hiding behind a distance you have claimed is no big deal to a grizzled veteran of the mean streets like you and now on top of that you are claiming to be too old and not capable. What else are you not capable of doing Bill? You know when you have to start making excuses it means you have failed at something. -- Don Binns 2000 - Yamaha Venture Millennium Edition 84 - Virago 1000 Disclaimer: This message may contain incidental references to various brands of motorcycles, vehicles or parts manufacturers. They are included for informational purposes only and are not intended to upset, inflame or otherwise disturb the sensibilities of anyone associated with the brands. Hyper-sensitive readers of the post who might be upset with the content are advised to make copious notes, organize them into a coherent message and then hit the delete button. http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/reeky.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/ http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/banff.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/kananaskis.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/walkercalgary.htm http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/calgarybrowning.htm
Nah.. keep the record straight.. Not even a top hand is "dragging" me anywhere.. much less a puppy like you.. now.. what? to the topic at hand which is Bubba you better lay off whatever that is you are smoking, snortin' or shootin'.. You have commenced to hallucinate, again.. Not even those little buddies of yours can imagine me running away from an anemic asshole like you.. LOL.. hmmm.. now let's see .. pimples.. I must have missed all this buryin' that you are talking about.. Can you remember what that is all about.. or do you need some time to Google it.. One statement that keeps haunting you is the one where I told you I'd whip your pimple faced ass all over Texas if you and your couple of un-named buddies showed up at my house.. Looks kinda funny to see that grizzled Same address for the best part of twenty years, sport.. If you call that "tripping over myself .. running away" you just never been to a real rodea..huh ? Is that a warm fluid you feel dripping down your pant leg? Hmmm... hadn't noticed anything like that, but like I mentioned.. I'm close to the laundry room, just in case.. Damn son.. you just ain't got no mercy on old folks .. do you ? sheesh.. I sure am glad we've got the whole United States between us.. I suspect that if we ever faced up, I'd just keel over from laughing so hard.. Somebody told me recently that must be what keeps me so young looking and fit.. I laugh so hard.. hmmm may be right..
