I came a cropper

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Guest, Nov 17, 2005.

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    Gary Woodman Guest

    What, in aus.moto?

    Sanbar posted this back in July:
    http://tinyurl.com/9fery

    Gary
     
    Gary Woodman, Nov 25, 2005
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  2. Haven't seen THAT on a posting for a very long time.
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    Cheers

    PeterC [aka MildThing]
    '81 Suzuki GS450-s (gone on to better and brighter things - I hope)
    '87 BMW K100RT (write-off)
    '81 Yamaha Virago (XV) 750H (work in progress)
    '01 Yamaha FJR1300

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    Peter Cremasco, Nov 25, 2005
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  3. Not wrong. I've been riding ATVs for about 20 years. Did my first ATV
    accreditation course today. Learnt a lot. Found out a few of the things
    I THOUGHT was the right thing to do, wasn't - and could be done better.

    If I can keep practising what I learnt today, I will benefit.

    Same with rider-training. Every time I do it, I come away with a
    slightly increased skill base - and I think i'm a better rider for it.
    Mind you - I still have this nasty habit of falling over at the most
    inconvenient times.

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    Cheers

    PeterC [aka MildThing]
    '81 Suzuki GS450-s (gone on to better and brighter things - I hope)
    '87 BMW K100RT (write-off)
    '81 Yamaha Virago (XV) 750H (work in progress)
    '01 Yamaha FJR1300

    www.dmcsc.org.au
    http://eladesom.com.au/ulysses/
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    Peter Cremasco, Nov 25, 2005
  4. I was always lead to believe that the lower pressures on the race track
    were so that the tyres would reach their operating temperature much
    quicker. After all, on the track you don't really have the luxury of
    spending 1 or 2 kms weaving around to warm up the tyres.
    Too true.
    I must've always had fairly consistent stem head bearing torques, coz
    I've never experienced THAT much of a problem - even when the bearings
    HAVE required replacing, - whereas 10 psi difference sticks out like the
    proverbial.


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    Cheers

    PeterC [aka MildThing]
    '81 Suzuki GS450-s (gone on to better and brighter things - I hope)
    '87 BMW K100RT (write-off)
    '81 Yamaha Virago (XV) 750H (work in progress)
    '01 Yamaha FJR1300

    www.dmcsc.org.au
    http://eladesom.com.au/ulysses/
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    Peter Cremasco, Nov 26, 2005
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    Knobdoodle Guest

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    HEY!!
    I never said I panicked!
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 26, 2005
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    **** ME; I hope you've broken that habit now (or have linked brakes!).
    I can't imagine how long it'd take to haul up a fully-laden 1150GS using
    the back only...
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 26, 2005
  7. In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 26 Nov 2005 22:13:53 +1000
    I'm having a hard time imagining a Hustler with brakes that good myself.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Nov 26, 2005
  8. Yeah, its a tenuous issue. I had a long and involved discussion with a bike
    workshop over it. They had their wisdom and their POV and I had mine. They
    considered a certain set up "better" and I didn't agree with them (no real
    surprise there though).
    I put that I, just in case things were going to get silly and carcass
    integrity vs preformed stress might be introduced......(not to mention zero
    degree belts vs radials vs x ply).
    I have to agree with you, to a point. I had a set replaced under the guise
    that they were beyond serviceable. When I got the bike back I wasn't happy
    with the way it handled. I looked at all the things that had deviated from
    how I usually had it and looked at changing them to see what effect it had.
    I was amazed at how the head bearing torque influenced "my style" of riding.
    I found that despite having "knackered" bearings, the torque on them could
    influence the handling of the bike lots. Though it is hard to say if that
    was due to me being used to the bike and the style I rode it.

    I did a bike trip and checked the PSI et al. before heading off. At a
    routine check of all things I found the PSI was "way down" to what should
    have caused arse cancer and the like. I don't know if it was because I was
    relaxed, enjoying myself and it wasn't an issue or _just that bike_. So
    coupled with that and the head bearing stuff, I started comparing some of
    the other bikes in the shed with such changes to the norm. Theo has already
    spat his dummy cos I can't find them, but I'm looking for them (waves to
    T'eo). I reckon it is a good experiment to see how different "tightness" be
    it in PSI or Nm can alter the handling for better or for worse.


    Cheers

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Nov 26, 2005
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    atec Guest

    They didn't (mine certainly didn't) I suggest he's a wuss.
     
    atec, Nov 26, 2005
  10. In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 27 Nov 2005 00:07:19 +1000
    I suspect what might have happened is a front end lose on bad surface,
    or else a really really slow speed one.

    Usually a learner doesn't really have an understanding of what's
    happening because there's a lot to take in and they haven't got enough
    experience to get at the details. So somehwhere he's associated the get
    off with the brakes and bingo.

    My big old bike has a massive drum on the front, but you do have to use
    the back much more than you do on a more modern bike. I can't stop her
    with it though, because it will lock the back wheel. I can lock the
    front wheel at very slow speeds on bad surface, not a good feeling!


    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Nov 26, 2005
  11. You could try using your pillion's knee and toe...

    Postman Pat
     
    Pat Heslewood, Nov 28, 2005
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