How would you clear congestion [1]..?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by sweller, Jun 6, 2005.

  1. sweller

    Ben Blaney Guest

    .... murdering other kids, in a cheeky scouser kind of way...
     
    Ben Blaney, Jun 7, 2005
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    sweller Guest

    Would I do such a thing?

    So if you were to remove the constraints of Government (the 'rigging')
    how would you do it?
     
    sweller, Jun 7, 2005
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    That won't work. A London stockbroker isn't going to relocate to
    fucking Glamorgan to get a tax-break. They'd rather stay where they
    are, recruit the best personnel available, pay them a million a year,
    let the cunts commute and pay the higher rate of tax.
    No-one will use the service, because it'll take longer - even if
    congestion is reduced. Because car-owners would rather sit alone in
    their own vehicle, with their own radio on, doing their door-to-door,
    than to take public transport. Unless - and I'm thinking of commuting
    into Central London - there's an enormous time or money difference (or
    they want to go out on the piss after work).
    You haven't thought about the impact on schools and families.
    You haven't thought about the impact an everyfucking body.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jun 7, 2005
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    Ace Guest

    *Waves* from Villa Ace.

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    Ace, Jun 7, 2005
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    Ginge Guest

    The whole point is it doesn't have to fit everyone, if it were to work
    for as little as 5-10% of companies that's still a significant reduction
    of commuters.
    I've seen it done, and it does work, people use it. Royal Sun &
    Alliance run this kind of system in Horsham for example. Never
    underestimate the power of free transport.

    A lot of factories in lincolnshire also employ the free bus to work
    system, extending their catchment area to surrounding towns where cheap
    staff are available.

    The impact is people would have to wake up and go to bed earlier, nobody
    would die. Within a few weeks people would be used to the new time
    alarm clocks went off. It's not a huge enough offset to cause trauma.
    There are plenty of jobs that it doesn't matter what time the work gets
    done, so long as there is somebody there to do it... Take a billing
    section of an accounts department for example, so what if people work 7
    AM - 3PM, if anything it means they actually hit the lunchtime and
    afternoon post more easily.

    As for the people doing the work, they wake up a few hours early, then
    get the benefit of more sunny afternoons.

    The whole point here is the it's better when changes won't benefit
    everyone, if they did that then the end result would be moving the rush
    hour, not staggering people's commuting times.
     
    Ginge, Jun 7, 2005
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    platypus Guest

    Digital used to do this in Reading: sites a couple of miles out of town,
    buses morning, lunchtime and evening. C&G run lunchtime buses the three
    miles into Gloucester, and pay the IR to cover the taxable benefit.

    Teenagers start about 10:30 am.
    Lots of people here work compressed hours, ie four 9-hour days per week. So
    four early starts and one extra day at home.
     
    platypus, Jun 7, 2005
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    Pete M Guest

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    that was low, Ben... even for you...


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    Ford Capri (ressurection started)
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    Scouse Git extraordinaire. Liverpool, Great Britain
     
    Pete M, Jun 7, 2005
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    It just entered my head, what can I say.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jun 7, 2005
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    Pete M Guest

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    normally exactly what enters your head...


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    Pete M

    Mercedes 260E, Porsche 911 Carrera 3.2
    Ford Capri (ressurection started)
    VW Golf Clipper Cabriolet

    COSOC #5
    Scouse Git extraordinaire. Liverpool, Great Britain
     
    Pete M, Jun 7, 2005
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Yeah, I was in a limo on Sunday with my new VP, his deputy and a
    couple of others. We'd arrived in Doha, and new VP has only been here
    once.

    We passed a massage place, near the office, and I pointed and said "in
    that establishment another man touched my testicles". There was a
    brief moment of silence, until one of the others - who knows me well -
    laughed like a ****. Then I told the whole story, and they all
    laughed.

    Could have turned out bad, though.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jun 7, 2005
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    TimP Guest


    Why? Since my bike's tyres were slashed (grrr) I've been running to
    work. 3.5 miles each way, takes 25 mins + 10 for shower at work, so
    quicker than taking the tube, though admittedly this is going fairly
    quickly.

    It's also free, means I'm getting really fit and have had to increase
    the amount I eat to avoid losing weight. Only downside is that it's
    less fun than riding to work.
     
    TimP, Jun 7, 2005
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    Pete M Guest

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    Well, using your example, there's a few reasons.

    1. I don't always get 35 minutes notice if an emergency booking crops up
    2. No shower at work
    3. I drive a limousine and for me to turn up, all dishevelled and smelling
    worse than usual isn't good for business.
    4. I knock off work at 3-4am sometimes, and really don't fancy the uphill
    ride home, after a 10 hour stretch at work, when the car will get me there
    in 10 minutes without having to get changed out of my suit.
    Good points, I suspect I'd rather be fat, unhealthy and comfortable than
    healthy, thin, and piss wet though after a 3 am bikeride home though.


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    Pete M

    Mercedes 260E, Porsche 911 Carrera 3.2
    Ford Capri (ressurection started)
    VW Golf Clipper Cabriolet

    COSOC #5
    Scouse Git extraordinaire. Liverpool, Great Britain
     
    Pete M, Jun 7, 2005
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  13. I only wish my Trophy did.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 7, 2005
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    ogden Guest

    My small car does 17mpg when thrashed. Be careful what you wish for.
     
    ogden, Jun 7, 2005
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    petrolcan Guest

    I'd guess your car is fucked.
     
    petrolcan, Jun 7, 2005
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    ogden Guest

    It did about 27mpg over the weekend, and I do drive with diving
    boots, iyswim. But a diesel it ain't (other than the oil...)
     
    ogden, Jun 7, 2005
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    Ginge Guest

    I saw a 42MPG average for the return trip on sunday @ 70MPH down country
    lanes.

    Diesels rock.
     
    Ginge, Jun 7, 2005
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    Yebbut, there has to be suitable employment there for the expanded
    population. Presumably too, more employment and more residents would
    push up the prices.
    Only a few days a year for me, then!
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 7, 2005
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    I keep parsing that as "Vanilla Ace".

    I dunno, damn ex-pat pop singers flaunting their gold-plated taps at
    us...
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 7, 2005
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  20. 50.5mpg for the last tankful in the Silver Tuddy, and that included 100
    miles towing a trailer wiv DT175MX aboard.

    OK, so I set the cruise control to 68mph and sat back, but still.

    The damn thing was a tad thirsty (I thought) when new, but it's got
    *much* more economical with 13k miles on. Sweeter and quieter, too.

    And that's odd. I didn't think modern cars needed much running in, but
    the difference in this case is extraordinary. Are all diesels like this?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 7, 2005
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